Comments on: Europe to an American http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:41:46 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kellyesco http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-2/#comment-7398 Kellyesco Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:42:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-7398 The country's name is spelled COLOMBIA without a U, moron. The country’s name is spelled COLOMBIA without a U, moron.

]]> By: Wiliam Kovaccs http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-2/#comment-3906 Wiliam Kovaccs Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:08:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-3906 I would like to take issue with your use of the term "the six million" in referring to the Jewish Holocaust of WWII. (This has been a personal issue since Steven Spielber used the term in his Academy Awards speach.) The term begs the question "What about the other six?" Roughly 12 million people died in Nazi custody in WWII. This includes 2-3 million soviet POW's, 2 milion Poles and 500,000 Roma. Some gassed, some murdered but most killed through "Vernichtung durch Arbeit" (Annilation by over-work). The Jewish Holocaust was particularly vile because of the lack of any readily comprehensible logical explanation, its horrific industrialization and its rigid book keeping. It must be remembered and that memory defended, but to forget the other six is obscene. I would like to take issue with your use of the term “the six million” in referring to the Jewish Holocaust of WWII. (This has been a personal issue since Steven Spielber used the term in his Academy Awards speach.) The term begs the question “What about the other six?” Roughly 12 million people died in Nazi custody in WWII. This includes 2-3 million soviet POW’s, 2 milion Poles and 500,000 Roma. Some gassed, some murdered but most killed through “Vernichtung durch Arbeit” (Annilation by over-work).
The Jewish Holocaust was particularly vile because of the lack of any readily comprehensible logical explanation, its horrific industrialization and its rigid book keeping. It must be remembered and that memory defended, but to forget the other six is obscene.

]]> By: John Samford http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-2/#comment-3326 John Samford Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:34:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-3326 IIRC, it was Alstair Cooke who said "Americans think 100 years is a long time while Europeans think 100 miles is a long ways". It could have been Churchill or that French guy whose name escapes me at the moment but was noted for his observations on life in America. Regardless, most American's see Europe as a tiny little place. That has a lot to do with treating France as if it was the same as Greece or Norway. Since most of the serious killing in Europe happend centuries ago, it is beyond the ken of the average American, who considers the last Super Bowl to be ancient history, if they can bother to even think back that far. So they have no conception of things like the 30 years war and how seriously Euros take their differences. The internet will see a lot more Obamanics over the next few weeks. Ohhhh.....BAMA knows he has one chance and one chance only, which is to force Billery out of the primary before the Convention. Once the Convention is called to order, Ohhh....BAMA is toast. So I expect to see hordes ( think Mongols, or Hun's) of Obamanics running the blogs trying to put more pressure on Billery. IIRC, it was Alstair Cooke who said “Americans think 100 years is a long time while Europeans think 100 miles is a long ways”. It could have been Churchill or that French guy whose name escapes me at the moment but was noted for his observations on life in America.
Regardless, most American’s see Europe as a tiny little place. That has a lot to do with treating France as if it was the same as Greece or Norway. Since most of the serious killing in Europe happend centuries ago, it is beyond the ken of the average American, who considers the last Super Bowl to be ancient history, if they can bother to even think back that far. So they have no conception of things like the 30 years war and how seriously Euros take their differences.

The internet will see a lot more Obamanics over the next few weeks. Ohhhh…..BAMA knows he has one chance and one chance only, which is to force Billery out of the primary before the Convention. Once the Convention is called to order, Ohhh….BAMA is toast. So I expect to see hordes ( think Mongols, or Hun’s) of Obamanics running the blogs trying to put more pressure on Billery.

]]> By: tanstaafl http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-2/#comment-3316 tanstaafl Sat, 31 May 2008 13:45:11 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-3316 "...we hear remonstrations about the “money culture” and how young students are to not to pursue the big money and house <b>(as he has lately),</b> but instead pursue a path of public service that, as usual, is analogous to that once followed by the noble Mr. Obama himself." Mr. Obama's Memorial Day advice isn't actually advice he himself has followed. Or Teddy Kennedy, for that matter, for whom Mr. Obama was substituting as commencement speaker. In southside Chicago politics, a rising star can buy (or have bought for him, cf Tony Rezko) damn near anything. As my Daddy used to say (ironically enough)..."Do as I say, not as I do." “…we hear remonstrations about the “money culture” and how young students are to not to pursue the big money and house (as he has lately), but instead pursue a path of public service that, as usual, is analogous to that once followed by the noble Mr. Obama himself.”

Mr. Obama’s Memorial Day advice isn’t actually advice he himself has followed. Or Teddy Kennedy, for that matter, for whom Mr. Obama was substituting as commencement speaker.

In southside Chicago politics, a rising star can buy (or have bought for him, cf Tony Rezko) damn near anything.

As my Daddy used to say (ironically enough)…”Do as I say, not as I do.”

]]> By: Normicon http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-2/#comment-3312 Normicon Sat, 31 May 2008 07:14:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-3312 I paid about 35 bucks a month in California, right now I'm paying about 19 bucks in Europe, just thought I'd let you know. I paid about 35 bucks a month in California, right now I’m paying about 19 bucks in Europe, just thought I’d let you know.

]]> By: TLM http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-2/#comment-3306 TLM Sat, 31 May 2008 01:27:20 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-3306 Richard: Balanced, in depth article on John McCain 2 weeks ago in The New York Times Magazine. He does say things to get elected. He has to. (www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/magazine/18mccain-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) Richard: Balanced, in depth article on John McCain 2 weeks ago in The New York Times Magazine. He does say things to get elected. He has to. (www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/magazine/18mccain-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin)

]]> By: Richard http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-1/#comment-3303 Richard Fri, 30 May 2008 17:30:05 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-3303 M.E.: I'll never understand why people always talk about the "messiah" thing as if that has anything to do with reality. Sure, there is a lot excitement, but the same has happened time and time again in presidential primaries and on other occasions. This time it is just a bit more amplified, probably partly because of the new media, and mostly because of the disastrous last presidency. And I really don't see why an Obama presidency would be so bad for the "destiny" of the world. After the chaos the last 8 years brought us, it will be really difficult for either Obama or McCain the screw things up even worse (Sometimes when I listen to "maverick" McCain I fear a bit his visions for the world, but at least he seems to much more considerate than Bush). M.E.: I’ll never understand why people always talk about the “messiah” thing as if that has anything to do with reality. Sure, there is a lot excitement, but the same has happened time and time again in presidential primaries and on other occasions. This time it is just a bit more amplified, probably partly because of the new media, and mostly because of the disastrous last presidency. And I really don’t see why an Obama presidency would be so bad for the “destiny” of the world. After the chaos the last 8 years brought us, it will be really difficult for either Obama or McCain the screw things up even worse (Sometimes when I listen to “maverick” McCain I fear a bit his visions for the world, but at least he seems to much more considerate than Bush).

]]> By: M.E. http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-1/#comment-3295 M.E. Fri, 30 May 2008 09:32:57 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-3295 To Richard: I talked about Spain, France and Italy because I know well enough these countries and understand their languages. I speak only about what I know directly. Spain is not alright. This country is in process of the political and national decomposition. The socialist rule was destructive for Spain. Its “economic growth” is completely illusory. I agree with you that Europe is not “homogeneous mass”. There are many different situations and conditions. To stay, for example, in France and speak about all Europe is impossible. I read this page not to have information about Europe but to study various points of view. My irony about “liberty, justice and democracy” was irony about the idealistic vision of political reality. In any case, as the ancient Romans said, Rome is the World. So what happens in the US makes me anxious. I doubt in all, but I am sure that destiny of the World is decided in the US, and new American messiah Obama is absolutely ill-fated personage. Excuse me for my poor English. To Richard:

I talked about Spain, France and Italy because I know well enough these countries and understand their languages. I speak only about what I know directly. Spain is not alright. This country is in process of the political and national decomposition. The socialist rule was destructive for Spain. Its “economic growth” is completely illusory. I agree with you that Europe is not “homogeneous mass”. There are many different situations and conditions. To stay, for example, in France and speak about all Europe is impossible. I read this page not to have information about Europe but to study various points of view. My irony about “liberty, justice and democracy” was irony about the idealistic vision of political reality. In any case, as the ancient Romans said, Rome is the World. So what happens in the US makes me anxious. I doubt in all, but I am sure that destiny of the World is decided in the US, and new American messiah Obama is absolutely ill-fated personage. Excuse me for my poor English.

]]> By: Javelin http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-1/#comment-3291 Javelin Fri, 30 May 2008 03:43:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-3291 Wow, more generalizations and rationalizations from an intellectual who got too close to power. Of course, the mental midgets here love justifications for more war and love over generalizations about Europe, which VDH should know are untruths. If the only way you can feel good about america is too trash some other country or continent you know next to nothing about, maybe you should check your thinking? Wow, more generalizations and rationalizations from an intellectual who got too close to power. Of course, the mental midgets here love justifications for more war and love over generalizations about Europe, which VDH should know are untruths. If the only way you can feel good about america is too trash some other country or continent you know next to nothing about, maybe you should check your thinking?

]]> By: Richard http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/comment-page-1/#comment-3290 Richard Fri, 30 May 2008 03:00:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/europe-to-an-american/#comment-3290 M.E.: Regarding “liberty, justice and democracy”: I talked about Switzerland before, what about that? I hear Austria or Germany, the Scandinavian countries and some others aren't too bad either. In fact, as I told before, it's easy to find a bad example which is in this case Italy (and maybe a bit more limited France. Spain is more or less alright). And it is true, that all three (liberty, justice and democracy) came under repeated attacks during the last couple of years in most of the countries, but isn't that exactly from the view that most of you hold here? M.E.: Regarding “liberty, justice and democracy”: I talked about Switzerland before, what about that? I hear Austria or Germany, the Scandinavian countries and some others aren’t too bad either. In fact, as I told before, it’s easy to find a bad example which is in this case Italy (and maybe a bit more limited France. Spain is more or less alright). And it is true, that all three (liberty, justice and democracy) came under repeated attacks during the last couple of years in most of the countries, but isn’t that exactly from the view that most of you hold here?

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