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		<title>By: Arius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12. Mike McDaniel, excellent post. Well said. I think the most likely possibility is number two. There are simply too many public statements by Obama. Dark days are ahead. Prepare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12. Mike McDaniel, excellent post. Well said. I think the most likely possibility is number two. There are simply too many public statements by Obama. Dark days are ahead. Prepare.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>98. Ron Kean:
And how about more real names here? We only use an alias if we think somebody might think we’re crazy or bad. As if anybody who knows us personally reads this anyway.

This is the Web, Ron; The slightest tremor may
alert the spider.

It is not a frequent occurrence, yet, but
people regularly get into serious trouble for
identifying themselves when criticizing TPTB
at school, work, or in government.

Recent expansions of the definition of &quot;Terrorist&quot;, for example, are enough
to keep me from signing my real name.

Hell, in California, a citizen who writes a
letter to their Congresscritter, suggesting
it might get voted out of office if it
votes for a tax increase, is a &quot;Terrorist&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>98. Ron Kean:<br />
And how about more real names here? We only use an alias if we think somebody might think we’re crazy or bad. As if anybody who knows us personally reads this anyway.</p>
<p>This is the Web, Ron; The slightest tremor may<br />
alert the spider.</p>
<p>It is not a frequent occurrence, yet, but<br />
people regularly get into serious trouble for<br />
identifying themselves when criticizing TPTB<br />
at school, work, or in government.</p>
<p>Recent expansions of the definition of &#8220;Terrorist&#8221;, for example, are enough<br />
to keep me from signing my real name.</p>
<p>Hell, in California, a citizen who writes a<br />
letter to their Congresscritter, suggesting<br />
it might get voted out of office if it<br />
votes for a tax increase, is a &#8220;Terrorist&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Kean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Kean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who have a need to criticize the professor over typos, lighten up.

Many of us make grammatical errors here and beat our selves up enough as it is for that.

And how about more real names here?  We only use an alias if we think somebody might think we&#039;re crazy or bad.  As if anybody who knows us personally reads this anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who have a need to criticize the professor over typos, lighten up.</p>
<p>Many of us make grammatical errors here and beat our selves up enough as it is for that.</p>
<p>And how about more real names here?  We only use an alias if we think somebody might think we&#8217;re crazy or bad.  As if anybody who knows us personally reads this anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>96...good thoughts!!  agree 100%

America is going quietly into the fog.  We were told we would be taken over from &quot;within&quot;..and that&#039;s what BO is up to.

Wake up America.  Not that many are listening.  We have so many handouts, so many people that don&#039;t care as long a they get theirs..apathy needs to be addressed before it sucks us all down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>96&#8230;good thoughts!!  agree 100%</p>
<p>America is going quietly into the fog.  We were told we would be taken over from &#8220;within&#8221;..and that&#8217;s what BO is up to.</p>
<p>Wake up America.  Not that many are listening.  We have so many handouts, so many people that don&#8217;t care as long a they get theirs..apathy needs to be addressed before it sucks us all down.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Marcotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Marcotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Essential vdh.

Good article! Beginning to get some teeth.  Why can&#039;t Americans follow Honduras’s lead and begin the process of impeachment of BHO.  Everything his administration has done to date is unconstitutional.   

Americans can no longer sit and talk but must bring to bear at least some of the true American way while it is still legally in place.  We no longer will be America and American if not.

The &quot;self appointed leaders&quot; as outlined by vdh must be pushed aside for being the demonstrated idiots they are and Americans who build and maintain America must now do their duty.  Say the Pledge of Allegiance to get your marching orders. Read the constitution to know what you are trying to achieve, what the objective is. 

The &quot;red&quot; states could take the lead within their legislatures if they still can. 

Is America going to go quietly into the fog of Marxist BS lead by a semi-literate indoctrinated, affirmative action communist shell fermented in the US due to PC and the demonstrated idiocy of the current PC politicians over the last 45 years. 

Massive destruction of human values since the &quot;Great Society&quot; in less than 50 years a whole culture of family growth and improvement has been destroyed now by a generational destruction of what Humans need to develop as all should. 

Read and listen to Sowell and Williams.  Their thoughts can rebuild America as it was and meant to be.  

America, under BHO is now like a whale on the beach being cannibalized by scavengers and parasites. It will not live long in this condition.   

Our founding fathers knew Some things may be worse than death. Lack of freedom was at its core. The freedom to succeed or fail.

The argument of Marx and Lenin was speed of the &quot;revolution&quot; that pitted one against the other.  Then it was decided it could be a bloody revolution and would still work much faster in a country like Russia. Communism not just Stalin destroyed millions of Russian farmers and land owners. They could not wait for the utopia that was to come.  That was the excuse and murderous deceit used.  

The same ideas now spouted brainlessly and being executed by BHO and the idiot followers.  The old Utopian language of deceit and ignorance of the human condition, or understanding of it, depending on your leadership position within the communist revolution.  

Now BHO has simply brought into currency the perfumed scorpion of communism and its veil of Utopian language being lapped up by the ignorant human debris created over the last 50 years.  By the illegals who vote courtesy of the Acorns.  By the ballots stuffed.

 
If the above is true, why not start putting it into the courts?.  Why not start at the State level? Do Americans have a choice now?  If not is this America? and to any one thinking about it the question must be asked &quot;Am I an American under the America of BHO?&quot;  I think not.

GOP politicians on the national stage are worthless, McCain is worth less, and his off spring is simply a court jester to the MSM and a chip off the old block seeking for a place and means to pontificate and protect a non legacy.   The one good one, Sara, decided she had enough for the time being.  

Bush is on the &quot;farm&quot; and needs to stay there along with any other relatives who have aspirations.  

America does not need any &quot;compassionate conservatism&quot; it needs a poke with a sharp stick to wake up.

Honduras&#039;s actions leads the way.  That is why BHO is siding with the other despots.  He knows that it is the corrective script for his administration.  It would be a peaceful lever until is becomes corrupted.  

&quot;Sodemyer&quot; has already demonstrated by her career and her actions she should not be on the Supreme Court and should not have even been nominated. The PC politicians will confirm her.  It will tip the scales and allow the destruction of the constitution.

The MSM and the business&#039;s that support them eventually will be economically shut down just as they have supported BHO&#039;s take over agenda and the economic shut down of America that has occurred within the last 6 months. Unionizing is going to have to be stopped. 

Giving assets funded by American lenders who worked hard for their money and that provide capital to business to the Unions is government theft. It also destroys capitalism without a shot.

Does the picture become clearer now as to what is happening to America.  Eventually we will all have to be on the same page and the same time and place for America to survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Essential vdh.</p>
<p>Good article! Beginning to get some teeth.  Why can&#8217;t Americans follow Honduras’s lead and begin the process of impeachment of BHO.  Everything his administration has done to date is unconstitutional.   </p>
<p>Americans can no longer sit and talk but must bring to bear at least some of the true American way while it is still legally in place.  We no longer will be America and American if not.</p>
<p>The &#8220;self appointed leaders&#8221; as outlined by vdh must be pushed aside for being the demonstrated idiots they are and Americans who build and maintain America must now do their duty.  Say the Pledge of Allegiance to get your marching orders. Read the constitution to know what you are trying to achieve, what the objective is. </p>
<p>The &#8220;red&#8221; states could take the lead within their legislatures if they still can. </p>
<p>Is America going to go quietly into the fog of Marxist BS lead by a semi-literate indoctrinated, affirmative action communist shell fermented in the US due to PC and the demonstrated idiocy of the current PC politicians over the last 45 years. </p>
<p>Massive destruction of human values since the &#8220;Great Society&#8221; in less than 50 years a whole culture of family growth and improvement has been destroyed now by a generational destruction of what Humans need to develop as all should. </p>
<p>Read and listen to Sowell and Williams.  Their thoughts can rebuild America as it was and meant to be.  </p>
<p>America, under BHO is now like a whale on the beach being cannibalized by scavengers and parasites. It will not live long in this condition.   </p>
<p>Our founding fathers knew Some things may be worse than death. Lack of freedom was at its core. The freedom to succeed or fail.</p>
<p>The argument of Marx and Lenin was speed of the &#8220;revolution&#8221; that pitted one against the other.  Then it was decided it could be a bloody revolution and would still work much faster in a country like Russia. Communism not just Stalin destroyed millions of Russian farmers and land owners. They could not wait for the utopia that was to come.  That was the excuse and murderous deceit used.  </p>
<p>The same ideas now spouted brainlessly and being executed by BHO and the idiot followers.  The old Utopian language of deceit and ignorance of the human condition, or understanding of it, depending on your leadership position within the communist revolution.  </p>
<p>Now BHO has simply brought into currency the perfumed scorpion of communism and its veil of Utopian language being lapped up by the ignorant human debris created over the last 50 years.  By the illegals who vote courtesy of the Acorns.  By the ballots stuffed.</p>
<p>If the above is true, why not start putting it into the courts?.  Why not start at the State level? Do Americans have a choice now?  If not is this America? and to any one thinking about it the question must be asked &#8220;Am I an American under the America of BHO?&#8221;  I think not.</p>
<p>GOP politicians on the national stage are worthless, McCain is worth less, and his off spring is simply a court jester to the MSM and a chip off the old block seeking for a place and means to pontificate and protect a non legacy.   The one good one, Sara, decided she had enough for the time being.  </p>
<p>Bush is on the &#8220;farm&#8221; and needs to stay there along with any other relatives who have aspirations.  </p>
<p>America does not need any &#8220;compassionate conservatism&#8221; it needs a poke with a sharp stick to wake up.</p>
<p>Honduras&#8217;s actions leads the way.  That is why BHO is siding with the other despots.  He knows that it is the corrective script for his administration.  It would be a peaceful lever until is becomes corrupted.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Sodemyer&#8221; has already demonstrated by her career and her actions she should not be on the Supreme Court and should not have even been nominated. The PC politicians will confirm her.  It will tip the scales and allow the destruction of the constitution.</p>
<p>The MSM and the business&#8217;s that support them eventually will be economically shut down just as they have supported BHO&#8217;s take over agenda and the economic shut down of America that has occurred within the last 6 months. Unionizing is going to have to be stopped. </p>
<p>Giving assets funded by American lenders who worked hard for their money and that provide capital to business to the Unions is government theft. It also destroys capitalism without a shot.</p>
<p>Does the picture become clearer now as to what is happening to America.  Eventually we will all have to be on the same page and the same time and place for America to survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The strange thing, Sir Hanson...

Is women like me, who fought the &#039;system&#039; by &#039;home birthing&#039; and &#039;home-schooling&#039; long before it was in &#039;fashion&#039;.

Now I&#039;m seeing the end result of people who didn&#039;t do as *I* did. I&#039;m not saying I&#039;m any sort of &#039;Mother Superior&#039; though. I&#039;m just regaling my experience as a home-schooling mother when everyone thought I was &#039;nuts&#039; for doing so.

When do we become &#039;one&#039; again as a country? I have Liberal friends whom I adore regardless of their &#039;buffalo stance&#039; and I don&#039;t shove my beliefs down their throat but, that being said, I do voice my concerns and they nod their heads now rather than &#039;argue&#039; with me over how great dohbama is. It&#039;s almost spooky to be in a room full of Lefties and make &#039;DohBama&#039; jokes and they all laugh and pitch in MORE JOKES.

The sad thing is...I can appreciate the sorrow of some voters who gave us 0bama, but still, seething and simmering within, I have a lot of intense hatred and disgust for the idiots who put DohBama in power.

Sometimes, I just want to slap a bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The strange thing, Sir Hanson&#8230;</p>
<p>Is women like me, who fought the &#8217;system&#8217; by &#8216;home birthing&#8217; and &#8216;home-schooling&#8217; long before it was in &#8216;fashion&#8217;.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m seeing the end result of people who didn&#8217;t do as *I* did. I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;m any sort of &#8216;Mother Superior&#8217; though. I&#8217;m just regaling my experience as a home-schooling mother when everyone thought I was &#8216;nuts&#8217; for doing so.</p>
<p>When do we become &#8216;one&#8217; again as a country? I have Liberal friends whom I adore regardless of their &#8216;buffalo stance&#8217; and I don&#8217;t shove my beliefs down their throat but, that being said, I do voice my concerns and they nod their heads now rather than &#8216;argue&#8217; with me over how great dohbama is. It&#8217;s almost spooky to be in a room full of Lefties and make &#8216;DohBama&#8217; jokes and they all laugh and pitch in MORE JOKES.</p>
<p>The sad thing is&#8230;I can appreciate the sorrow of some voters who gave us 0bama, but still, seething and simmering within, I have a lot of intense hatred and disgust for the idiots who put DohBama in power.</p>
<p>Sometimes, I just want to slap a bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Sagittarius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sagittarius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant and impeccable. Wise,clear, powerful prose. The most indispensible 
post-9/11 voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant and impeccable. Wise,clear, powerful prose. The most indispensible<br />
post-9/11 voice.</p>
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		<title>By: VivaLaRaza</title>
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		<dc:creator>VivaLaRaza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RJ to answer your question can Obama&#039;s Brood shoot? the answer is Yes We Can! Too many of us armed to the teeth put the news on while your out shooting deer and stuff that won&#039;t shoot back we are out everyday shooting people. You got guns we got more. You gotta get worked up to shoot we&#039;ll shoot for fun. Too many of us in the Army, Too many of us in the Navy Too Many in the Marines, The military IS NOT what you think it is it is also a bunch of out of work folks looking for a check and can&#039;t stand people like you. Too much money to make the feds and the d.e.a. can&#039;t stop us neither can YOU! Too many of us here already when that borders drops because you tried to start something you can&#039;t finish see how many more of us heavily armed ready to shoot will be right at your doorstep. Wal Mart sold out of guns? So what I don&#039;t get mine from Wal Mart  Palin&#039;s people really don&#039;t want it. Stop acting gay. Your not losing anything you are as free as you were when you were born you idiot.Go and get laid or something stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RJ to answer your question can Obama&#8217;s Brood shoot? the answer is Yes We Can! Too many of us armed to the teeth put the news on while your out shooting deer and stuff that won&#8217;t shoot back we are out everyday shooting people. You got guns we got more. You gotta get worked up to shoot we&#8217;ll shoot for fun. Too many of us in the Army, Too many of us in the Navy Too Many in the Marines, The military IS NOT what you think it is it is also a bunch of out of work folks looking for a check and can&#8217;t stand people like you. Too much money to make the feds and the d.e.a. can&#8217;t stop us neither can YOU! Too many of us here already when that borders drops because you tried to start something you can&#8217;t finish see how many more of us heavily armed ready to shoot will be right at your doorstep. Wal Mart sold out of guns? So what I don&#8217;t get mine from Wal Mart  Palin&#8217;s people really don&#8217;t want it. Stop acting gay. Your not losing anything you are as free as you were when you were born you idiot.Go and get laid or something stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Mongoose
&quot;Ike failed to confront tyranny. Hahaha…you are so funny..&quot;
I like Ike, especially for that speech he gave at the end of his two terms as President.
&quot;...we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex... Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.&quot;
What I was referencing was the fact that Ike was President when Victor was criticizing America&#039;s reaction to the Suez Crisis and wasn&#039;t he President in 1956 when we left the people of Hungry to the gentle mercies of the Soviet Union?
Neither party is all good or all bad, so to believe otherwise is naive in the extreme.
Mike W.
Most of these folks are Looney Tunes and scary as hell.  I like some of Victor&#039;s books on military history but otherwise he and his disciples make the black helicopter folks look sane and moderate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Mongoose<br />
&#8220;Ike failed to confront tyranny. Hahaha…you are so funny..&#8221;<br />
I like Ike, especially for that speech he gave at the end of his two terms as President.<br />
&#8220;&#8230;we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex&#8230; Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.&#8221;<br />
What I was referencing was the fact that Ike was President when Victor was criticizing America&#8217;s reaction to the Suez Crisis and wasn&#8217;t he President in 1956 when we left the people of Hungry to the gentle mercies of the Soviet Union?<br />
Neither party is all good or all bad, so to believe otherwise is naive in the extreme.<br />
Mike W.<br />
Most of these folks are Looney Tunes and scary as hell.  I like some of Victor&#8217;s books on military history but otherwise he and his disciples make the black helicopter folks look sane and moderate.</p>
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		<title>By: californiataxslave</title>
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		<dc:creator>californiataxslave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck trying to grab a third term when unemployment hits 25%, the dollar is collapsing, and the great one&#039;s approval ratings are in the low double digits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck trying to grab a third term when unemployment hits 25%, the dollar is collapsing, and the great one&#8217;s approval ratings are in the low double digits.</p>
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