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		<title>By: Ernst Friedel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernst Friedel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 11:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The opinion that Germany is a war-loving nation is often broadcast by politicians,the media and even taught in our schools and universities. However, when research is done the results are showing the opposite. The American scientist and author Professor Philip Quincy Wright (1890 – 1970) writes in his book &quot;A Study of War&quot; University of Chicago Press, 1942 the following:

From 1480 to 1940

278 wars involving European countries where fought. 

Below is a breakdown (in %) of the European nations that were involved in these wars. 

England:                           28%
France:                            26%
Spain:                             23%                        
Russia:                            22%
Austria:                           19%                        
Turkey:                            15%
Poland:                            11%                        
Sweden:                            9%
Holland                            8%                        
Germany/Prussia:                   8%
Denmark                            7%

Professor Philip Quincy Wright is a very respected scientist who, in 1970, was nominated for the Nobel Peace Price. Read his Biography at: http://tripatlas.com/Quincy_Wright

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opinion that Germany is a war-loving nation is often broadcast by politicians,the media and even taught in our schools and universities. However, when research is done the results are showing the opposite. The American scientist and author Professor Philip Quincy Wright (1890 – 1970) writes in his book &#8220;A Study of War&#8221; University of Chicago Press, 1942 the following:</p>
<p>From 1480 to 1940</p>
<p>278 wars involving European countries where fought. </p>
<p>Below is a breakdown (in %) of the European nations that were involved in these wars. </p>
<p>England:                           28%<br />
France:                            26%<br />
Spain:                             23%<br />
Russia:                            22%<br />
Austria:                           19%<br />
Turkey:                            15%<br />
Poland:                            11%<br />
Sweden:                            9%<br />
Holland                            8%<br />
Germany/Prussia:                   8%<br />
Denmark                            7%</p>
<p>Professor Philip Quincy Wright is a very respected scientist who, in 1970, was nominated for the Nobel Peace Price. Read his Biography at: <a href="http://tripatlas.com/Quincy_Wright" rel="nofollow">http://tripatlas.com/Quincy_Wright</a></p>
<p>Ernst Friedel</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Belts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wm Belts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a great example of an ad hominem fallacy.

 “In dealing with Mr. Buchanan, one must accept at the beginning two caveats. First, as is his style, he will always resort to ad hominem attacks in lieu of an argument. Thus note at the very beginning his sneering ‘court historian of the neoconservatives.’
Second, Buchanan unfortunately is neither a reliable journalist nor an historian, and thus simply cannot be trusted to report accurately what is written.”

The ad hominen fallacy wrap up in an allegation of some one else employing the ad hominen fallacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a great example of an ad hominem fallacy.</p>
<p> “In dealing with Mr. Buchanan, one must accept at the beginning two caveats. First, as is his style, he will always resort to ad hominem attacks in lieu of an argument. Thus note at the very beginning his sneering ‘court historian of the neoconservatives.’<br />
Second, Buchanan unfortunately is neither a reliable journalist nor an historian, and thus simply cannot be trusted to report accurately what is written.”</p>
<p>The ad hominen fallacy wrap up in an allegation of some one else employing the ad hominen fallacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty rich to read Hanson whining about ad hominem attacks coming from Buchanan after reading this piece. Sorry, but the modern NR, including Hanson, has been ridiculous in its ad hominem assaults on Buchanan for well over 15 years, as well as any other traditionalist conservative who dissents from a) the view that while both great evils, Nazism was the greater threat than Stalinism, b) Lincoln was a political messiah who &quot;saved&quot; the Union, c) at least a dozen other interpretations of different historical events that can only be read one way or you must be a racist, a xenophobe, an anti-Semite, a lunatic, etc. I haven&#039;t read Buchanan&#039;s book yet, though I look forward to doing so, so as far as I know it may be greatly flawed. But the ridiculous canard that PB is some sort of raging anti-Semite is ALWAYS the standard neocon &quot;argument&quot; about anything he ever writes about anything. Hanson&#039;s conservative credibility is hanging by a thread; after writing a whole book about the destruction open borders immigration is reaking on CA and the whole republic, he now spends his days on NR&#039;s blogs telling everyone and anyone who will listen how they must support the biggest globalist presidential nominee in Republican history, otherwise the end is near. For &quot;conservatives&quot; like Hanson, the Leftist influenced ideology of democratism imposed by America is all that matters in conservatism today. Sorry, Victor, but a &quot;neoconservative court historian&quot; is not an ad hominem; it&#039;s an accurate label for you and your current positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty rich to read Hanson whining about ad hominem attacks coming from Buchanan after reading this piece. Sorry, but the modern NR, including Hanson, has been ridiculous in its ad hominem assaults on Buchanan for well over 15 years, as well as any other traditionalist conservative who dissents from a) the view that while both great evils, Nazism was the greater threat than Stalinism, b) Lincoln was a political messiah who &#8220;saved&#8221; the Union, c) at least a dozen other interpretations of different historical events that can only be read one way or you must be a racist, a xenophobe, an anti-Semite, a lunatic, etc. I haven&#8217;t read Buchanan&#8217;s book yet, though I look forward to doing so, so as far as I know it may be greatly flawed. But the ridiculous canard that PB is some sort of raging anti-Semite is ALWAYS the standard neocon &#8220;argument&#8221; about anything he ever writes about anything. Hanson&#8217;s conservative credibility is hanging by a thread; after writing a whole book about the destruction open borders immigration is reaking on CA and the whole republic, he now spends his days on NR&#8217;s blogs telling everyone and anyone who will listen how they must support the biggest globalist presidential nominee in Republican history, otherwise the end is near. For &#8220;conservatives&#8221; like Hanson, the Leftist influenced ideology of democratism imposed by America is all that matters in conservatism today. Sorry, Victor, but a &#8220;neoconservative court historian&#8221; is not an ad hominem; it&#8217;s an accurate label for you and your current positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From VDH&#039;s rebuttal to comments in this forum:“Once Hitler invaded Poland, the last chance to prevent a global conflagration would have been to launch an immediate invasion in the West, to cross the Rhine with well over 100 British and French divisions.”-VDH

Wrong. The last chance to prevent the global conflagration came on September 3 when Britain declared war on Germany. Germany had not declared war on Britain, nor did it intend to. Germany’s interests were in Eastern Europe, recovering German lands amputated at the Peace of Paris (Danzig and the Polish Corridor), and eventually confronting the Soviet Union over the other weak states of the region who had since ancient times been ruled either by Romanovs, Hohenzoellerns, or Hapsburgs. By inserting Britain (and thus France and later the United States) into this battle between two ruthless dictators, Chamberlain, Halifax, and Churchill guaranteed the destruction of their empire as well as condemned many more millions unnecessarily to death.

Why not just leave Germany and Russia to fight it out, weakening each other and coming to some eventual stalemate? I know that would have outrightly condemned Eastern Europe to rule by dictatorship by one of these two men, but was the result of the war any better for these people who suffered under 50 years of rule by the “foul baboonery of Bolshevism”, in the words of Churchill in a more sane frame of mind.

Not excusing these murderers, I think Hanson’s idea of sending in 100 divisions,(where were these warriors when France was overrun in a matter of days in 1940?), is utterly ridiculous and shows a judgment perhaps clouded by the politics of western interventionism. It was this very intervention by the West, arrogantly assuming that we knew better and could structure the world according to our own ideals, that threw the gas on this regional struggle and exploded it into the global conflagration Hanson decries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From VDH&#8217;s rebuttal to comments in this forum:“Once Hitler invaded Poland, the last chance to prevent a global conflagration would have been to launch an immediate invasion in the West, to cross the Rhine with well over 100 British and French divisions.”-VDH</p>
<p>Wrong. The last chance to prevent the global conflagration came on September 3 when Britain declared war on Germany. Germany had not declared war on Britain, nor did it intend to. Germany’s interests were in Eastern Europe, recovering German lands amputated at the Peace of Paris (Danzig and the Polish Corridor), and eventually confronting the Soviet Union over the other weak states of the region who had since ancient times been ruled either by Romanovs, Hohenzoellerns, or Hapsburgs. By inserting Britain (and thus France and later the United States) into this battle between two ruthless dictators, Chamberlain, Halifax, and Churchill guaranteed the destruction of their empire as well as condemned many more millions unnecessarily to death.</p>
<p>Why not just leave Germany and Russia to fight it out, weakening each other and coming to some eventual stalemate? I know that would have outrightly condemned Eastern Europe to rule by dictatorship by one of these two men, but was the result of the war any better for these people who suffered under 50 years of rule by the “foul baboonery of Bolshevism”, in the words of Churchill in a more sane frame of mind.</p>
<p>Not excusing these murderers, I think Hanson’s idea of sending in 100 divisions,(where were these warriors when France was overrun in a matter of days in 1940?), is utterly ridiculous and shows a judgment perhaps clouded by the politics of western interventionism. It was this very intervention by the West, arrogantly assuming that we knew better and could structure the world according to our own ideals, that threw the gas on this regional struggle and exploded it into the global conflagration Hanson decries.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Bskb-  Could you please tell us exactly how Buchanan is a joke? Ed Mahmoud- could you inform me how Pat is an anti-Semite? c.kupfer- could you please enlighten yours truly about why you feel his book is stupid? 
I don&#039;t agree with Mr. Starr or P. Ami but at least they are providing reasons why they believe the way they do. I guess it&#039;s just more fun to engage in childish name calling ...correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Bskb-  Could you please tell us exactly how Buchanan is a joke? Ed Mahmoud- could you inform me how Pat is an anti-Semite? c.kupfer- could you please enlighten yours truly about why you feel his book is stupid?<br />
I don&#8217;t agree with Mr. Starr or P. Ami but at least they are providing reasons why they believe the way they do. I guess it&#8217;s just more fun to engage in childish name calling &#8230;correct?</p>
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		<title>By: bskb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bskb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buchanan is a joke.  I don&#039;t say this lightly, because he gets so much media play, but try to imagine an individual on the political front who has been marginalized less than him.  

Just the same, he uses his so call &quot;political authority&quot; to justify his abilities as a historian.  Quite frankly, I&#039;d rather trust Alan Keyes to teach me how to build a nuclear submarine using objects found around the house.

The fact that any media has embraced such a public figure only speaks to the quality of the train wreck we are witnessing, not the quality of the train itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buchanan is a joke.  I don&#8217;t say this lightly, because he gets so much media play, but try to imagine an individual on the political front who has been marginalized less than him.  </p>
<p>Just the same, he uses his so call &#8220;political authority&#8221; to justify his abilities as a historian.  Quite frankly, I&#8217;d rather trust Alan Keyes to teach me how to build a nuclear submarine using objects found around the house.</p>
<p>The fact that any media has embraced such a public figure only speaks to the quality of the train wreck we are witnessing, not the quality of the train itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Mahmoud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Mahmoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buchanan is an antisemitic nutcase.  And anyone who runs for President with a Marxist lesbian as his running mate has no claim to conservatism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buchanan is an antisemitic nutcase.  And anyone who runs for President with a Marxist lesbian as his running mate has no claim to conservatism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stutts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Stutts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My claim remains that von Braun was in a better position to know the likely timeline for a Nazi a-bomb than either of us. Hitler’s timeline for fighting America went into the 1980s; that would’ve been plenty enough time for a Nazi a-bomb to come to fruition.&quot;

That may very well have been your claim, but I&#039;ve met some of his team and your claim doesn&#039;t match the historical evidence - including the declassified debriefings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My claim remains that von Braun was in a better position to know the likely timeline for a Nazi a-bomb than either of us. Hitler’s timeline for fighting America went into the 1980s; that would’ve been plenty enough time for a Nazi a-bomb to come to fruition.&#8221;</p>
<p>That may very well have been your claim, but I&#8217;ve met some of his team and your claim doesn&#8217;t match the historical evidence &#8211; including the declassified debriefings.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Tuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Tuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Starr:

I suspect a crank in your vocabulary is anyone who deviates on this issue from the orthodoxy established during the passions and hatreds of WWII. 

As I said, Meyer may possibly have been off by a few dozen on Kristallnacht, but the comparison was with the millions already murdered by the Bolsheviks and the tens of millions of war dead that followed. As Buchanan said, “Kristallnacht was a shameful crime and a historic blunder…shocking, revolting and stupid.” As you rightly said, (the number of dead from) “Kristallnacht alone doesn’t include the tens of thousands of Jews put into concentration camps in Germany.”  But in your determination to show that nothing could have been worse, you omit the fact that most were released the following month with a warning to leave Germany.  I don’t think Buchanan even referred to the subsequent release, but the history is well documented. As horrible as their treatment was, Britain’s intervention assured that things would get worse for them and others.   

Given the track record of Hanson and other neo-cons in applying WWII’s appeasement “lessons” to contemporary geopolitics, such lessons need more careful scrutiny. Most scholars of the period recognize the insanity of Britain’s surrendering its war-making decision to a Polish military junta with its own agenda. Buchanan is measured in supporting their analysis. But his gifts as a brilliant polemist and pithy, lively writer attract a wider audience. That’s one reason, I suspect, for the hysterical reaction of those clinging to the old war propaganda influenced dogma.  

By the way, in insisting that new circumstances are irrelevant to how one deals with a problem (e.g. those prior to and after WWII) you continue to miss the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Starr:</p>
<p>I suspect a crank in your vocabulary is anyone who deviates on this issue from the orthodoxy established during the passions and hatreds of WWII. </p>
<p>As I said, Meyer may possibly have been off by a few dozen on Kristallnacht, but the comparison was with the millions already murdered by the Bolsheviks and the tens of millions of war dead that followed. As Buchanan said, “Kristallnacht was a shameful crime and a historic blunder…shocking, revolting and stupid.” As you rightly said, (the number of dead from) “Kristallnacht alone doesn’t include the tens of thousands of Jews put into concentration camps in Germany.”  But in your determination to show that nothing could have been worse, you omit the fact that most were released the following month with a warning to leave Germany.  I don’t think Buchanan even referred to the subsequent release, but the history is well documented. As horrible as their treatment was, Britain’s intervention assured that things would get worse for them and others.   </p>
<p>Given the track record of Hanson and other neo-cons in applying WWII’s appeasement “lessons” to contemporary geopolitics, such lessons need more careful scrutiny. Most scholars of the period recognize the insanity of Britain’s surrendering its war-making decision to a Polish military junta with its own agenda. Buchanan is measured in supporting their analysis. But his gifts as a brilliant polemist and pithy, lively writer attract a wider audience. That’s one reason, I suspect, for the hysterical reaction of those clinging to the old war propaganda influenced dogma.  </p>
<p>By the way, in insisting that new circumstances are irrelevant to how one deals with a problem (e.g. those prior to and after WWII) you continue to miss the point.</p>
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		<title>By: TLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Estimates of how close Germany and Japan were to having an atomic bomb at the end of WWII are not pertinent. The question is where would they have been had we not intervened, bombed their facilities for four years and occupied their territory.  Also, would there have been a Manhattan Project without a declared war against the Axis Powers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Estimates of how close Germany and Japan were to having an atomic bomb at the end of WWII are not pertinent. The question is where would they have been had we not intervened, bombed their facilities for four years and occupied their territory.  Also, would there have been a Manhattan Project without a declared war against the Axis Powers?</p>
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