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		<title>By: Mary Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc: Sully today praises Obama, the &quot;War&quot; Lincoln and damns Bush.  Does he know what Lincoln did/had to do during the Civil War/Between the States?  Was that justified for the reasons his friend Hitch has written about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc: Sully today praises Obama, the &#8220;War&#8221; Lincoln and damns Bush.  Does he know what Lincoln did/had to do during the Civil War/Between the States?  Was that justified for the reasons his friend Hitch has written about?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hanson, I have been reading through your columns.  I was hoping to encounter some interesting musings, but you seem less interested in discussing issues than incessantly complaining about liberals, the left, et al.   How disappointing.  I was expecting some serious discussion but this sure ain&#039;t it.  Mr. Hanson, I&#039;m afraid you have a lot more in common with those ideologically-driven, left-wing talking heads than you seem to realize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hanson, I have been reading through your columns.  I was hoping to encounter some interesting musings, but you seem less interested in discussing issues than incessantly complaining about liberals, the left, et al.   How disappointing.  I was expecting some serious discussion but this sure ain&#8217;t it.  Mr. Hanson, I&#8217;m afraid you have a lot more in common with those ideologically-driven, left-wing talking heads than you seem to realize.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is for STEVE, the #6 post:
Steve wrote: &quot;I am against corporate welfare for business.&quot;   Isn&#039;t it hypocritical to be against corporate welfare when you are supporting a foreign company that got billions of taxpayer money in the way of corporate tax breaks? That smells like welfare to me.  The media has done a great job making people believe the quality of the big three is less than foreign automakers. The media is quick to tell us that Hyundai got the car of the year award at the Detroit auto show, but where were they when the  Ford F-150 won truck of the year. Another example of the media trying to destroy America and its culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for STEVE, the #6 post:<br />
Steve wrote: &#8220;I am against corporate welfare for business.&#8221;   Isn&#8217;t it hypocritical to be against corporate welfare when you are supporting a foreign company that got billions of taxpayer money in the way of corporate tax breaks? That smells like welfare to me.  The media has done a great job making people believe the quality of the big three is less than foreign automakers. The media is quick to tell us that Hyundai got the car of the year award at the Detroit auto show, but where were they when the  Ford F-150 won truck of the year. Another example of the media trying to destroy America and its culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Gypsytda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gypsytda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT article! Great insights! 

The BIG 3.. I found it amusing that there are people defending and giving their examples of working domestic cars. Yes, you can come across a domestic vehicle that works (accidents happen).. but it is the (lack of) reliability history (which can easily be proven) and the current financiall situation they have. 

The Big 3 laughed at Honda &amp; Toyota when they arrived in US, never thinking of them as competition. They arrived at the right time with the best feature.. great gas mileage! They continued to improve.. while theBIG 3 continued to decay in any quality they once had. They stagnanted. The only thing the BIG 3 were ever focused on was appearance.. they made nice looking &quot;lawn-ornaments&quot; since that was as far as most could travel.  

Hyundai&#039;s cheap vehicles arrived..yet again the big 3 laughed, and yet again have been surpassed! 

Now they are a sinking ship, havey they or will they learn? no.. they know they can hold their hands out for more money and they will get it.. they don&#039;t have to improve. 

Have I owned a Domestic.. yep, it was a Mercury Topaz. Would I ever buy one again? Heck you could not pay me to take one! What have I owned since? I had a Prelude over 10 years. An Integra I gave up at 8 years to move across the country. My Element is 6 years old this month. I have nothing more than oil changes, tires &amp; brakes to deal with. The Mercury would only move if going down hill, I lost track on the number &amp; types of repairs I had to make. 

I grew up with GM vehicles.. the last one that was worth anythingwas a 1960s chevy station wagon.. it was a tank (the floor boards were rusted out, we frequently saw parts fall on to the road.. but somehow the engine still worked.. nothing else did, but that ONE i loved). We had a 1970s oldsmobile stationwagon, which had 3 transmissions in the course of a year. JUNK! There was a Chevy s-10.. I have seen coupes bigger than that wish-i-were-a-truck. It was not terribly problematic, but my father did not drive above 5 mph, so i don&#039;t think we could/would notice any issues.

Palin vs Kennedy. I really liked Palin, and too hope she runs in 2012! She was real, honest &amp; decent. Kennedy.. is a name only..nothing more, no substance, no value.. nada. Hum sounds like that yahoo that is our new president! No way anyone can toss around the experience issue, since that dip-stick won! 

What was wrong under Bush is now OK under Obama.. don&#039;t that beat all.. sadly his followers are all brain-dead zombies.. you can not revive the dead! We are stuck with 4 years of media drooling and stupid liberals.. sigh! 

Prop 8.. I think California is a ridiculous state.. they have been pushing gay acceptance in our schools, down to kindergartners.. yet they rejected a union for gays? They need to straighten their priorities. NO child should have homosexuality or sex of any kind explained when they are in kindergarten.. especially by our (awful) school systems. But on that same token.. the one thing california could and should embrace is unions for gays. They deserve the same benefits of any committed relationship. I know more truly committed gay couples than i do heterosexual couples. This just an argument that should not be an argument.. it is over terminology... To appease those who want &quot;marriage&quot; to be man &amp; woman.. just choose an acceptable/appropriate term for a same sex couple.. and lets be done with it. 

An award for threats to Bush but a major freak out for a cartoon. This being fear.. that is an interesting theory, i think it is just ignorance and stupidity of the liberal-left! They would have a hissy fit if he blew out a birthday candle.. it does not matter what he does or did.. it was wrong.. in their limited vision. They are petty &amp; hatefilled, it has clouded their judgement and any sense they might have had once. 

Bogus protests.. targetted in safe places.. I know too many people of this breed, they think they are doing something so riteous and good by protesting. Protesting to me is just a joke.. either you walkin circles with a sign, maybe chanting.. or the other extreme of utter stupid violence (ie PETA).. and never held or targetted at anything more dangerous than a uncooked marshmellow. 

Again.. wonderful article thank you.. thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT article! Great insights! </p>
<p>The BIG 3.. I found it amusing that there are people defending and giving their examples of working domestic cars. Yes, you can come across a domestic vehicle that works (accidents happen).. but it is the (lack of) reliability history (which can easily be proven) and the current financiall situation they have. </p>
<p>The Big 3 laughed at Honda &amp; Toyota when they arrived in US, never thinking of them as competition. They arrived at the right time with the best feature.. great gas mileage! They continued to improve.. while theBIG 3 continued to decay in any quality they once had. They stagnanted. The only thing the BIG 3 were ever focused on was appearance.. they made nice looking &#8220;lawn-ornaments&#8221; since that was as far as most could travel.  </p>
<p>Hyundai&#8217;s cheap vehicles arrived..yet again the big 3 laughed, and yet again have been surpassed! </p>
<p>Now they are a sinking ship, havey they or will they learn? no.. they know they can hold their hands out for more money and they will get it.. they don&#8217;t have to improve. </p>
<p>Have I owned a Domestic.. yep, it was a Mercury Topaz. Would I ever buy one again? Heck you could not pay me to take one! What have I owned since? I had a Prelude over 10 years. An Integra I gave up at 8 years to move across the country. My Element is 6 years old this month. I have nothing more than oil changes, tires &amp; brakes to deal with. The Mercury would only move if going down hill, I lost track on the number &amp; types of repairs I had to make. </p>
<p>I grew up with GM vehicles.. the last one that was worth anythingwas a 1960s chevy station wagon.. it was a tank (the floor boards were rusted out, we frequently saw parts fall on to the road.. but somehow the engine still worked.. nothing else did, but that ONE i loved). We had a 1970s oldsmobile stationwagon, which had 3 transmissions in the course of a year. JUNK! There was a Chevy s-10.. I have seen coupes bigger than that wish-i-were-a-truck. It was not terribly problematic, but my father did not drive above 5 mph, so i don&#8217;t think we could/would notice any issues.</p>
<p>Palin vs Kennedy. I really liked Palin, and too hope she runs in 2012! She was real, honest &amp; decent. Kennedy.. is a name only..nothing more, no substance, no value.. nada. Hum sounds like that yahoo that is our new president! No way anyone can toss around the experience issue, since that dip-stick won! </p>
<p>What was wrong under Bush is now OK under Obama.. don&#8217;t that beat all.. sadly his followers are all brain-dead zombies.. you can not revive the dead! We are stuck with 4 years of media drooling and stupid liberals.. sigh! </p>
<p>Prop 8.. I think California is a ridiculous state.. they have been pushing gay acceptance in our schools, down to kindergartners.. yet they rejected a union for gays? They need to straighten their priorities. NO child should have homosexuality or sex of any kind explained when they are in kindergarten.. especially by our (awful) school systems. But on that same token.. the one thing california could and should embrace is unions for gays. They deserve the same benefits of any committed relationship. I know more truly committed gay couples than i do heterosexual couples. This just an argument that should not be an argument.. it is over terminology&#8230; To appease those who want &#8220;marriage&#8221; to be man &amp; woman.. just choose an acceptable/appropriate term for a same sex couple.. and lets be done with it. </p>
<p>An award for threats to Bush but a major freak out for a cartoon. This being fear.. that is an interesting theory, i think it is just ignorance and stupidity of the liberal-left! They would have a hissy fit if he blew out a birthday candle.. it does not matter what he does or did.. it was wrong.. in their limited vision. They are petty &amp; hatefilled, it has clouded their judgement and any sense they might have had once. </p>
<p>Bogus protests.. targetted in safe places.. I know too many people of this breed, they think they are doing something so riteous and good by protesting. Protesting to me is just a joke.. either you walkin circles with a sign, maybe chanting.. or the other extreme of utter stupid violence (ie PETA).. and never held or targetted at anything more dangerous than a uncooked marshmellow. </p>
<p>Again.. wonderful article thank you.. thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: 2008 Reflections: California Gay. &#124; Pirates! Man Your Women!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 2008 Reflection: the bias&#8230; &#38; Confusion. &#124; Pirates! Man Your Women!</title>
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		<dc:creator>2008 Reflection: the bias&#8230; &#38; Confusion. &#124; Pirates! Man Your Women!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: 2008 Reflections: Women &#38; Politics (Palin vs Kennedy) &#124; Pirates! Man Your Women!</title>
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		<title>By: seguin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Today’s Japanese makes can do much better than 200k and are actually NOT rolling hunks of garbage, NOT shouting yourself hoarse noisy, and — get this — are actually fun to drive. They can easily pass going uphill. And unlike your basic Buicks, they’re comfy on long rides AND look like they’re designed for someone under the age of 90.&quot;

Huh?  When was the last time you looked at any American car?  Much less a Buick (which, btw, is second only to Lexus in long term reliability and initial quality).  Your statement doesn&#039;t really apply to reality.

I&#039;ve personally had good and bad luck with my domestics.  Of course, the only foreign cars I&#039;ll buy are Alfa Romeos, but that&#039;s beside the point.  My &#039;92 Spirit R/T spent a third of its time on jackstands, although that is partially my fault - ~240 hp and a lead foot don&#039;t mix.  My Jeep, which is supposed to be one of the worst of the domestics, is holding steady at 134,000.  I needed a new radiator once, but that&#039;s nothing major.  My &#039;66 Olds was horribly abused (including throwing it into park at 70 mph), but ran like a top for the 40,000 miles or so that I had it, over its original 80k.

I&#039;d say, personally, take a good long look at domestics before eliminating them.  I know many people with over 300k on their Suburbans that have enjoyed them thoroughly.  And I have a friend whose Accord blew its tranny at 60k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Today’s Japanese makes can do much better than 200k and are actually NOT rolling hunks of garbage, NOT shouting yourself hoarse noisy, and — get this — are actually fun to drive. They can easily pass going uphill. And unlike your basic Buicks, they’re comfy on long rides AND look like they’re designed for someone under the age of 90.&#8221;</p>
<p>Huh?  When was the last time you looked at any American car?  Much less a Buick (which, btw, is second only to Lexus in long term reliability and initial quality).  Your statement doesn&#8217;t really apply to reality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve personally had good and bad luck with my domestics.  Of course, the only foreign cars I&#8217;ll buy are Alfa Romeos, but that&#8217;s beside the point.  My &#8216;92 Spirit R/T spent a third of its time on jackstands, although that is partially my fault &#8211; ~240 hp and a lead foot don&#8217;t mix.  My Jeep, which is supposed to be one of the worst of the domestics, is holding steady at 134,000.  I needed a new radiator once, but that&#8217;s nothing major.  My &#8216;66 Olds was horribly abused (including throwing it into park at 70 mph), but ran like a top for the 40,000 miles or so that I had it, over its original 80k.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, personally, take a good long look at domestics before eliminating them.  I know many people with over 300k on their Suburbans that have enjoyed them thoroughly.  And I have a friend whose Accord blew its tranny at 60k.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@120

JLawson,

The only thing frightening about Sarah Palin is that anyone takes her seriously.  The left would be happy to have her be the face of the GOP for a generation.  Palin would be wise to stay in Alaska, where she can avoid scrutiny.

There is a small fringe in the USA that has become enamored of Mrs. Pitbull, but the vast majority can see that this empress has no clothes - and no brains.

Peace.

DS</description>
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<p>JLawson,</p>
<p>The only thing frightening about Sarah Palin is that anyone takes her seriously.  The left would be happy to have her be the face of the GOP for a generation.  Palin would be wise to stay in Alaska, where she can avoid scrutiny.</p>
<p>There is a small fringe in the USA that has become enamored of Mrs. Pitbull, but the vast majority can see that this empress has no clothes &#8211; and no brains.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>DS</p>
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