124 Comments

1. Gaffe Prices:

the UN: it’s a disco for dictaters.

Sep 23, 2009 - 5:33 pm 2. TLM:

“The Gaddafi and Ahmadinejad rambling hate-filled speeches were lunatic and nutty…Why would Obama wish to brag of returning to the human rights council given the creepy regimes on it?

Uh, res ipsum loquitur?

Sep 23, 2009 - 5:40 pm 3. Jason Crawford:

“The key to stopping the Obama remaking of the U.S. is calm and reasoned analysis.” *Yes*, and thank you. Reason and reality are on our side, and they must be our firm and constant basis for all debate.

Sep 23, 2009 - 5:49 pm 4. Gaffe Prices:

I am grateful to C. Johnson for his relentless work refuting and yes rebuking of takfiri taqquiya. His work has been so good and so exhaustive that I have sometimes worried for his safety; takfiri doesn’t like no backtalk and their efforts against him are as insipid as our intrepid presidents speeches are banal.

He is entitled to his opinions. I don’t encounter much in the way of extreme right wing discourse and if I did I wouldn’t pay much attention to it. The figuerhead for that bunch right now is Ron Paul, and/or Pat Buchanon, and they get more sup[port from network news channels than anywhere else, They are provocative, and like a stopped watch are make semi cogent arguments occasionally. But cognitive dissonence and doublethink are required to buy the whole contradictory bundle. So no, thanks.

While we are on the subject of provocations, Obama inspires an odd loyalty among those who do dirty work for the sake of a cult of personality. Its bad foundation, and I feel that we are winning in the arena of ideas. This administration is built on ego and petulance, so they set up themselves and their followers for much disillusion, with nothing, I mean nothing for Plan B. “We are still working on it”.

Sep 23, 2009 - 5:57 pm 5. Minerva:

“Doctor, why is there so much fighting among the faculty?”

“Because the stakes are so small.”

Sep 23, 2009 - 6:30 pm 6. Sharmuta:

Thank you for your reasoned position concerning Mr. Charles Johnson, Sir. It’s comforting to know there are still reasonable people on the right who are not interested in shunning those with a moral position concerning ethnic nationalists and white supremacists. That it is a person of your high reputation makes it that much more meaningful.

Regards, Sharmuta

Sep 23, 2009 - 7:10 pm 7. Rob Mandel:

Professor Hanson,

Again, excellent observations. What truly frightens me is not the at the press carried the water for obama, nor that it acted with such obsequiousness. What frightens me is that the American people were by and large unable to see him for who and what he really was. Either they couldn’t, or wouldn’t. Does it really matter?

He could have fit his resume on a 3×5 index card, with plenty of room to spare, yet we were transfixed by his oratory skills. That offers little hope for the future. His ability to damage this nation will be immense, and he might just succeed in some manner.

Sep 23, 2009 - 7:41 pm 8. Gaffe Prices:

Circle the Wagons or circle the drain- the Obama administration and its advisors are thinking about it: when a decision is reached, it will take special pains to make sure all the important international bodies and parties are not offended by the decision, whatever that may be, and whenever that may be.

Its on a case by contingency basis. any parties not glad or possibly offended bu=y the decision are deemed not important and they will have to either like it or lumpen it.

we’ll get back to you. Don’t call us, we’ll call you.

Sep 23, 2009 - 8:09 pm 9. Walter Anshaw:

Re: your piece on Obama as University President.

A very astute analysis. Thank you.

Sep 23, 2009 - 8:39 pm 10. Sulla:

The biggest obstacle to Afghan success is in the White House and on Capitol Hill. Like the Democrats of the early 1960s, the current political leadership will fight for a tie and wreck the US military. And when we lose in Afghanistan, our hard fought gains in Iraq will melt away as if we had never been there.

As for this “First among equals” foreign policy, it will lead to a revival of isolationism. Those who hated us before will continue to do so; and those who were our friends will seek to cut a deal to avoid their wrath. The failure of this “can’t we all get along” policy is assured because our enemies hate us because we, not the UN, impose what stability there is in the world. To those who desire to kick over the apple cart, the sooner we are gone the better.

Finally, everybody to the right of the far left had better put the differences between them away and find common ground. Otherwise, like the Jacobins, the far left will pick off each segment of the political spectrum one at a time.

Sep 24, 2009 - 12:37 am 11. John Rohan:

VDH,

You probably know by now that Little Green Footballs quoted this on it’s front page. But Charles refused to link to it, since Pajamas Media carries links to ‘white supremacists’ (according to him).

I wonder if you see the irony claiming how reasonable CJ is and how he hasn’t changed, while at the same time you are posting from this website, a site that CJ now feels is poison (a web site he helped create, no less!!).

Maybe you should take a closer look at what’s going on at LGF. Better yet, try to post a comment that disagrees with CJ and see how quickly you will be banned.

Sep 24, 2009 - 1:20 am 12. Robert Winkler Burke:

When We Choose a King
By Robert Winkler Burke
Of inthatdayteachings.com
Copyright 1/22/09

When we choose a king,
We get what we deserve,
Lessons in gladness or sadness,
For a king always serves.

A king always serves,
To prove right or wrong,
In teaching it matters not,
What side he belongs.

If a fool, the king will be loved,
By all his same kind,
While proving a fool in power, showers,
Insanity all around.

The fool king proves wrong doctrines,
Creates death eventually,
Letting fools repent to great depths,
Of fool insanity.

A wise king is hated utterly,
By all foolish crowds,
His acts of wisdom provoke,
Fools to stand proud.

While the wise king brings life,
Through sagacious acts,
The death lovers will distort,
Great matters of fact.

The only way fools will change,
And love a wise king,
Is to first let a fool king,
Up end everything.

So let the fool king,
Up end all he can,
He’ll just prove what a fool believes,
Not a wise man.

The fool king’s subjects,
Will finally want truth,
Hard truths, brutal truths the crowds,
Earlier for soothed.

Give us sane doctrines!
They’ll cry in unison,
A fool king is deadly!
Forgive us, God’s son.

And God will forgive,
Our foolish choices,
When hard truth is honored,
God rejoices.

God rejoices and lets us,
Choose wise kings,
First letting us suffer fools,
To learn great things.

How do I know this?
I’ve been king of my life,
Often fool, sometimes wise,
Mostly in-between strife.

So let a fool be a fool,
As good as it gets,
This a wise man allows,
How wisdom begets.

Sep 24, 2009 - 3:52 am 13. Lifeofthemind:

Regarding Little Green Footballs, I posted the following on R.S. McCain’s Hot Air Green Room thread.

I think that RSM could have been more forthright and less Clintonesque in simply denying the “revulsion” charge. Eventually I see, or at least believe that I see, that he did.

CJ is an excellent site designer and coder and a professional musician. That does not make him an astute political theorist. His opinions on most matters of public debate are worth no more and no less than are mine or those of thousands of others who blog. The condemnation of people who mean well in a process of guilt by association is wrong because it is ultimately self destructive. It is wrong because it is obviously ineffective. While trolls and mobys are real threats, to extreme a control policy destroys the value of the intellectual market. Managing debate, on a blog or in a classroom or at the dinner table, is an art as much as a science. The evidence is that CJ got it wrong and a few people who bring little intellectual value to the conversation have been empowered and more thoughtful voices have departed.

That does not mean that I feel that CJ is wrong about each case or issue. Some I disagree with him on and some I do not feel as important as he does but he can choose the topics in his own house. He also is entitled to set the rules and ban people if he wishes. LGF is thank God not a government site and the 1st Amendment does not apply.

Having expressed these opinions on the related Powerline Blog thread my LGF account was blocked.

——-
Victor Davis Hanson has spoken up in defense of Charles Johnson. He defends the current topic focus as being the host’s prerogative. On that I agree, although the standards of proof relied upon in LGF to assign to persons labels such as racist or fascist sympathizer are not addressed by Mr Hanson. He also does not address the issues of blog management and commentator blocking or nonscatalogical comment deletion.

I agree with Prof. Hanson about the following opinion about the birth certificate issue,

why he won’t release his college transcripts is a far more interesting and valid inquiry.

Sep 24, 2009 - 4:45 am 14. datechguy:

That is the single best defense of Charles that I’ve read and your opinion on this matter should be respected.

It is however Ironic since:

Your personal experience with Charles is relevant (I agree that it is), yet the personal experiences of Steven Green were not relevant to Charles nor were the experiences of Dan Riehl, Michelle Malkin, Pam Geller and Cynthia Yockey or Jim Hoff.

You talk about a change in emphasis, that’s true; but it’s also a change in allies. Two years ago for example Rush Limbaugh was “Rush Limbaugh honorary lizzardoid” Now Charles links to media matters to attack him as a racist for the same type of stuff he has done for decades.

Finally you talk about attacks that you have experienced and empathize, yet the very fact that you are writing at Pajamas media means that Charles won’t link to you because Robert Stacy McCain writes here.

Mr. McCain has been writing for pajamas media for OVER A YEAR, during which time Charles was actually doing interviews here. All of this outrage seems to have come since Sept. 12th of this year.

In the congress Tip O’Neil said to see where the action is look not at the bills but at the Amendments,to know what is happening at LGF look at the comment threads and count the number of people banned for disagreeing on a point. Try registering and defending Rush Limbaugh over there and see how long you last.

If one has good arguments they can stand up under fire, if one can’t abide dissent, if your outrage is selective or timed, then logic demands that they be questioned.

That’s why I consider Charles outrage faux outrage and I give little credence to it.

Credibility is like money, you can bank it for a while but once it is spent and more isn’t earned then you become broke.

Sep 24, 2009 - 4:51 am 15. RE:

Well the first time ever, I completely disagree with VDH.

Charles Johnson and LGF have flipped out. Johnson would make a Spanish Inquisitor proud with his prejudice, zeal, and myopia.

Sep 24, 2009 - 6:05 am 16. jim:

Ironically, LGF won’t link to your article because PJM is verboten. If you had not given him a ringing endorsement, you would have been declared off limits, too.

Sep 24, 2009 - 6:21 am 17. Charles Gordon:

Symbols inform us more often than the conclusions drawn from thoroughly reasoned enquiry because they speak the language of fast and easy, worth a thousand words.

Anyone acquainted with the ersatz majesty of the UN can only be bemused with the return on all the money spent on its maintenance and accomplishments. Created by and in furtherance of a handful of First-world countries’s interests, one can be absolutely sure that not a single aspirant to the multitude of third-world autocrats has any respect for it.

But to the huddled masses and to our effete intelligentsia, a symbol it is, so our historic first Islamic apostate president used its podium as pulpit to point out to the world his deliberate seditious intent to overturn the American way of life.

Sep 24, 2009 - 7:48 am 18. Ron Kean:

I owe my introduction to VDH to LGF. I’ve been a regular there even before the ‘Rather” expose. Now I have the Linkviewer only in my ‘Bookmark’ list because I just don’t want to fight the fights he chooses now.

He’s not wrong and it’s good to get his views on the record, but there’s only so much anger I can handle, and the radical White House, UN, PA, etc. fills my quota.

And I also owe Tommy Emanuel to LGF. They call me Plato. (Hi Charles)

This morning before work, Pro-Obama supporters were calling and giving our Talk Radio personality rebuke for criticizing the speech. In so many words, Obama said that our democracy should not be considered better than other forms of government.

But the fact that we can all so easily express rebuke and so many other people in their countries are jailed or shot for doing the same demonstrates that Obama is wrong.

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:04 am 19. The Monster:

“It’s comforting to know there are still reasonable people on the right who are not interested in shunning those with a moral position concerning ethnic nationalists and white supremacists.”

Sharmuta, this is rich. Considering that Charles has seen fit to ban from his site (”shun”) those who express disagreement with him on a wide range of matters, often after you personally lash out at them, you have no room to complain about people being shunned.

He plays the guilt-by-association game better than Joe McCarthy ever did. He has labeled (if not libeled) people as “racist” and/or “white supremacist” for no reason other than their attendance at meetings at which some previously-labeled person also attended. He demands that others shun the tainted people, and when they do not, he shuns them for not shunning. Thus, the number of shunned people continues to grow, as others refuse to join in the shunning.

He has taken the word of far left sites like Kos and HuffPo as gospel to support his claims, and has not attempted to ascertain the veracity of quotes. Where is the Charles Johnson whose BS detector went to 11 on the Killian forgeries?

Perhaps most dispicably, he took the action of agent-provacateur “Kilgore Trout” in posting racist comments at Hot Air in the wee hours when no one was around to do cleanup as some kind of proof that HA tolerates racism.

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:20 am 20. Dan:

Johnson is NOT the center of American political life, and despite his yeoman work in yesteryear, has done untold damage to the cause by trying to tarnish everyone from Malkin to Limbaugh as nothing more than a rank and ranting racist.

Supremely objectionable is his idea that jihadism is but an islamic doppleganger to Christian and Conservative extremists.

That type of sloppy thinking has come to typify his postings of late. Pretty soon we’ll be reading from him that canard that “islam is a religion of peace.”

If you don’t desire to take sides, ——— that’s one thing. Neutrality is not without its antecedants.

But clearly you’re not familiar with the rantings and the ravings of late of Mr. Johnson, for were you as familiar as you need to be before pronouncing on this fracas, you would surely have forewent pronouncing thereupon.

There’s no sin in not following the day to day travails and ravings of Johnson, or anyone like Johnson. Nor are you in any way obliged to be fully up to speed on what he’s been posting. But before you enter the fray, it does do to familiarize yourself with who has gone off the deep end. If courtesy prevents you from being critical of Johnson, someone you’ve met, ——— that’s one thing.

But others, fully abreast of what he’s been up to of late, are not hamstrung by such scruples.

As for Johnson, he deserves to be left outside in the snow at Canossa, like that perfidious Henry IV long before him! Let him sit in the snows for days and nights on end.

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:25 am 21. Frank Miller:

VDH–

Strong advice. Run silent (or, at least, polite), run deep.

When the opponent’s digging his own hole…

FM

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:42 am 22. Stogie:

Charles Johnson deserves criticism and ostracism for his scurrilous and libelous defamations of Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller and Robert Stacy McCain.

If VDH can ignore all of that then I have to wonder if he’s really a serious thinker, writer and pundit — in which case I won’t bother reading him anymore.

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:46 am 23. jic:

I actually agree with Charles Johnson that allying ourselves with some extremely dubious European groups just because they are anti-Jihadist is a bad idea (although I also believe that most of the people who support that alliance are merely well-intentioned but mistaken, not stupid or evil). The problem is that Johnson has gone far beyond that; smearing virtually the entire mainstream conservative movement as bigots, and banning any commenter at LGF who even politely disagrees with him over the slightest thing. He won’t even link to an article on Pajamas Media (a site he helped create!) just because R.S. McCain posts here (he, apparently, is a white supremacist simply because he has linked to sites which may have hosted white supremacists. Johnson’s view is ridiculous: at worst, R.S. McCain is guilty of occasional poor judgement). I think this tells you everything you need to know about what sort of person Charles Johnson has become.

Sep 24, 2009 - 9:32 am 24. unsavoryagent:

Sharmuta says:

“It’s comforting to know there are still reasonable people on the right who are not interested in shunning those with a moral position concerning ethnic nationalists and white supremacists.”

Johnson has a moral position concerning ethnic nationalists? That’s news in itself.

It really only takes a few minutes to find dozens of racist arab jokes and comments at littlegreenfootballs.com. comments that have sat there for years and years. It’s quite amazing to witness this “dustup” knowing that Johnson’s very own site is littered with Camel-loving jokes, jokes about muslim immigrants in Europe etc.

I’ve been screen-capping for days, because I quickly discovered Mr. Johnson is furiously deleting any traces of his own significant hypocrisy in the matter, especiall given his moral superiority complex when Hotair failed to police comments for 6 hours.

Sep 24, 2009 - 9:49 am 25. Cornhead:

Pres. Obama as university president is spot on.

He assumes that are enemies are educated and reasonable people. Some aren’t. It’s a dangerous world out there.

And his lack of any real world or economic training is obvious.

Sep 24, 2009 - 10:01 am 26. Cornhead:

Pres. Obama as university president is spot on.

He assumes that our enemies are educated and reasonable people. Some aren’t. It’s a dangerous world out there.

And his lack of any real world or economic training is obvious.

Sep 24, 2009 - 10:02 am 27. William Teach:

VDH, I would suggest that you scroll back through the archives at LGF, and see the Christianity hatred, the calling of anyone who disagrees a racist, the bannings, the pure venom, the constant yammering about creationism, etc and so on. Over the past week, Charles has chilled a little bit, meaning less posts and less nuttery.

Now, it’s his site, he can do whatever he wants with it. But, for someone who used to be one of the premiere anti-jihad bloggers, everything changed, and the guy became totally unable to allow discussion other than through his narrow viewpoint, and his material completely changed. Again, his site, but, people are allowed to call him on it. His personal attacks on other bloggers, and his viewpoints that are less sane than Markos Moulitas’ and Andrew Sullivan’s.

Consider that not long after Obama won the election, Charles changed his header graphic to remove the moonbat shielding the jihadi.

Anyhow, there is no blog war. Just a slamming of someone more unhinged than folks at the DU, Kos, and other far left sites.

Sep 24, 2009 - 10:05 am 28. Carl Sesar:

Dr. Hanson,

I’m more interested in Obama’s birth certificate than his college transcripts, because whether he is a natural born citizen or not is essential to determining whether he is eligible or ineligible to be president. Since we don’t know for sure whether Obama’s eligible or not, that issue, it seems to me, is both valid, and of the highest priority.

Any information relevant to that issue in his college transcripts wouldn’t have official standing, but that, and everything else in them, would be of considerable interest, of course.

Sep 24, 2009 - 11:12 am 29. petesiracusa:

Your May trip is so popular because there is a HUGE need in our society for a voice of reason. I had the pleasure of spending a few days with you at the grove in June and have become an ardent reader. I want you to know how important your essays are in today’s crazy world.
By the way, what do you have to say about the differences between the crazy Iranian and Libyan leaders’ speeches at the UN and Netanyahu’s very clear challenge to the UN and of his assessment of the Palestinian situation? .

Sep 24, 2009 - 11:22 am 30. Gabriel Hanna:

I agree that Charles Johnson has done yeoman service for civilization. But I do think right now he is tarring the right with too broad a brush, and at LGF he is very, very quick to ban people just now. (Full disclosure: I’ve been banned, for a direct criticism of Charles’ recent coverage of the Right. I still read LGF every day.)

He’s just recently criticized Glenn Reynolds for linking to Robert Stacy McCain. Now, there are people claiming that RSM is a white supremacist. I haven’t seen that; but I do think he, at least at one time, was a garden-variety racist bigot, and perhaps he still is, and Confederate nostalgia is highly suspect. But criticizing Instapundit for linking to non-racist things that McCain says seems a little over the top; like McCarthy calling the Army a hotbed of Communism. Where does “don’t link to the linkers” end?

Sep 24, 2009 - 11:26 am 31. David Thomson:

“If VDH can ignore all of that then I have to wonder if he’s really a serious thinker, writer and pundit — in which case I won’t bother reading him anymore.”

Victor Davis Hanson and numerous others have not been paying particular attention to his decline. They have other things to worry about. It only dawned on me a a few months ago that something was amiss. Charles Johnson refuses to discuss these issues in a mature and logical manner. He is regrettably becoming another Andrew Sullivan.

Sep 24, 2009 - 11:29 am 32. Dan:

What of those that Johnson has taken to allying himself with of late?

An anti-Western, anti-Capitalist and particularly virulent anti-Christian left. What does that say of him, what does that say of where his thought has tended over the last couple of years? Nor is this a “6 degree of separation” kind of thing, an instrument he has availed himself of repeatedly as he has repeatedly taken a cudgel to promiment champions right of the political divide.

There was a cliff looming out there, and Johnson went over it.

There was a chasm that normal people sought to avoid, which he plunged right over into.

There was a line that warned him he was approaching close to the edge, he disregarded it.

There were people he was of a time allied with, who called out to him warning him to turn away, but he scorned them.

So let him rot, out there in the snows, day and night, at Canossa.

Sep 24, 2009 - 11:59 am 33. Pajamas Media » Sleeping Through Speeches:

[...] Read the rest of the story here. [...]

Sep 24, 2009 - 12:15 pm 34. Poor Citizen:

The author has some strong opinions and some good points. He is correct about Obama’s touch of hubris in his speech and the presidents gambling. My take on it is that Obama is gambling and he knows (or has been advised) to gamble early in his presidency, rather than later (smart). Because….if it works, the dividends could be great. However, if his gamble dont work…well we all know what happened to Carter..

I can also see the over dependence on numbers. I too am older and a military retiree. I can remember during vietnam when victory and/or winning depended largely on body counts and other satistics. If anything, (the hollywood versions aside) Vietnam, Iraq and Northern Ireland should teach us ( I hope, finally…) that numbers alone dont mean your winning. Our casulties are down yes, but there are too many soldiers returning to report that the population still hates us…even though we are supposedly on the “winning/right” side. Something to take note of. Good article, thanks.

Sep 24, 2009 - 12:41 pm 35. karlinsync:

I believe this President has and is taking this great nation down a deep hole that we will never be able to climb out as a united country. He has thrown the Constitution under the bus. His agenda in his speeches is to lie and bully. With the Democratic majority, Obama has ripped and torn the fabric in our American way of life to an end I do not know. But I believe it is not something that looks even remotely to what our founding fathers envisioned. It is time to make a stand.

Sep 24, 2009 - 12:43 pm 36. Mike Murray:

The America that Obama so blithely criticizes has been (in the words of an old SNL character) “very, very good to [him].”

Hanson is right: Obama did not make Obama; this great nation made him — and afforded him wonderful opportunities. And he seems not at all grateful.

Sep 24, 2009 - 12:49 pm 37. Too much is too much:

I am a longtime “lizard” who eventually couldn’t take it anymore.
Unlike many other readers, I realized all along that CJ was not a conservative, and respected him for never having pretended to be one.
Until VERY recently, I’d say I agreed with him about 80% of the time, and actually to this day think he made the right call about Euro ethnic nationalist groups and about Ronaldus Paulus.
What put me off was style rather than substance, even where I agree with him. (I have little more time for ID and creationism than CJ.) Obsessive intervention in debate threads. Mass banning of longtime lizards, sometimes of jerks who had it coming, sometimes of people who fell afoul of some “secondary boycott” regulation, and many that seemed to make sense individually but added up to “Great Purges” in the aggregate. Veteran lizards walking on eggshells for fear of the banning stick.
Argumentation that used to be incisive, but of late became ever more “gutter”-al, patronizing, and insulting. Opinionated insistence on “fact”s from extremely dubious sources or just plain wrong.
Tiresome overuse of “racist”, “homophobe”, etc. slurs, to the point where they will go ignored even when there may actually be something to them. Insulting opponents with terms like “teabagger”, “warming denier”,…
And don’t even get me started on his “Amen chorus” of late or this blog post will be unprintable.
When the atmosphere deteriorated to the point that even Zombie appears to have been hounded into silence I decided I had had enough, and deliberately locked myself out of my own account. I have not been back since. Enough is enough, and too much is too much.

Sep 24, 2009 - 12:50 pm 38. Thomas_L......:

Eyes and Balls! You got ‘em Doc! Good article. You lost me sticking up for the New Charles Johnson, however. With him and David Frum on our side, how can we lose?

Sep 24, 2009 - 12:55 pm 39. Mike Murray:

Correction:

In agreeing with Hanson, I meant to say that “Obama did not make America; this great nation made HIM,” rather than “Obama did not make Obama…”

In the parlance of media-speak, I regret the error.

Sep 24, 2009 - 1:09 pm 40. ddc:

by ddc09 NY [Sep 24, 2009 4:21:32 PM]
For the life of me I have never been able to take Barack Obama seriously as our President. Be it his alarming naivette, or his alarming narcissism, or both. The defining moment came, when this week, the deranged murderer/dictator Ghaddafi, not only called our President “a son” but actually called for him to be President for life… Was our administration tickle pink by this or were they sickened as were the American people? I hope this administration is pleased with their new “friend” if it was the former. I also hope they know they stand to loose their paychecks 3 years from now. The corruption within the UN is rampant. It has become more an internationally immoral disgrace. Throwing it out of NYC cannot come too soon yet should have happened long ago. There is no reason the Americans should also have to foot the bill for this mess. If ever an organization needed to be dissolved, this is a prime example. I’m disgusted with this President. He seeks too much praise from the wrong entities.

Sep 24, 2009 - 1:25 pm 41. Sherab Zangpo:

Is this how we comment the actions, the behaviors, and the speeches of a president liked by Qaddafi (sp. unknown and not really interesting) and Castro ????

I liked Bolton’s comments, instead.

And I have my own comments about the Supreme Leader who is changing the “material constitution” (it’s marxist “autonomy” idiom) of America with the help of an internationl conspiracy (Soros and brotherly friends of Soros)…

We are truly witnessing an historical tragedy.
Let us pray.

Thank you for the opportunity to comment.

Sep 24, 2009 - 1:36 pm 42. Peter:

Charles Johnson’s obsession with and hatred and bigotry toward creationist is unhinged. Last time I looked, it wasn’t creationists that hijacked airplanes on 9/11 and crashed them into the WTC, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania.

And I just don’t see any “white supremacists” involved anywhere in the anti-statist movement, and even if they were, would that be a good enough reason to embrace statism? My God, is racism and white supremacism worse that the collectivism, statism, socialism and fascism coming out of Washington these days?

Sep 24, 2009 - 1:42 pm 43. rcocean:

VDH:

I’m disappointed at your support for Charles Johnson. Even if you respect his beliefs, any decent person should have contempt for his methods and way of expressing them. His constant attacks on Christianity and those on the right (Beck, Limbaugh, Pain, Bush, McCain, Coulter, Malkin, RSM, NRO, Hot Air, William Buckley, Ronald Reagan) are bad enough. Even worse, is his constant smearing, guilt-by-association, misquoting, and out-right lying about those he dislikes. He makes Joe McCarthy look like a model of intellectual honesty.

His constant braying about “Fascism” “racism” and “anti-semitism” has turn his blog into echo chamber of intellectual dishonesty and sycophancy worthy of a Stalinist pep rally cica 1935.

Its sad that RSM defended you charges of “Racism” but you cannot return the favor.

Sep 24, 2009 - 1:42 pm 44. genghis:

Hanson is exactly right. Obama is the product of a culture almost entirely divorced from the American experience. His ‘exoticsm’ was one component of his allure. His life has been spent in a sterile bubble separate and distinct from the foundational American culture. His ‘otherness’, is reflected in the way he views America, in a detached, analytic way. To him, we are the ‘other’. Like some life form in a laboratory to be studied, poked and prodded. During the campaign, some of his AFro-American detractors accused him of being unauthentic, not a true representative of the Aftr-American experience. Those critics were indeed correct. And he is no less an unauthentic American. That has nothing do do with his birth origin or skin tone. It has everything to do with his childhood, rearing and education. As Presidential candidate, and as President he has gone out of his way to separate himself from 215 years of American history and achievement. All that happened before his ascension was apparently one giant error. America began a mere nine months ago. This attitude is light years beyond ordinary narcissism. To put it succinctly, Obama is one weird dude. Alien.

Sep 24, 2009 - 1:44 pm 45. Middleman:

Why should we believe Republicans believe in American Exceptionalism when all we hear from them is “NO, No, No!”. All the while the rest of the world is quickly catching up.

Sep 24, 2009 - 2:15 pm 46. NCBob:

I’ve long believed that Obama is a lazy, no very bright, three card monte dealer who squeaked through a couple of good school on his race.
More proof? Watch the UN speeches of Obama, Chavez and Kadafy. Obama, swinging his head from side to side like a metronome as he read the words some secret person had written for him, could have been any public school hack who plagiarized all his college papers, knowing that no liberal faculty queen would ever call him on it.
But, both Chavez and Khadafy seemed to speak extemporaneously. Chavez had a little black notebook that he checked every so often but seemed to speak on the run. I didn’t see that much of Khadafy and while rambled and repeated himself, he didn’t seem to be reading what some one else wrote for him.

Sep 24, 2009 - 2:19 pm 47. FRANK COLLATT:

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA has openly identified with the types of people he esteems and looks up to, during the G-20 U.N. Meeting. Fidel Castro, Libyan Leader Moammar Gaddafi, Iranian Leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the many other DESPOTS. Unfortunately hard-working, honest, tax-paying Americans have to foot the bill for their security and accomodations while they attend this Freak Show. Ladies and Gentlemen, America is being destroyed, day by day, liberty by liberty, and this is but another sign that times for us Americans have changed for the worst. Perhaps in 2010 we can slow the damage and destruction, if NOT, then we will have a Country like Hugo Chavez rules in Venezuela; A BANANA REPUBLIC!! How’s that Hope and Change working out for you?

Sep 24, 2009 - 2:22 pm 48. Ceckel:

Will Obama be able to achieve any of the things he talked about in his speech? It is a pretty big week for him and I have to say he has a lot to live up to. A lot of people don’t think he can do it, just check out this video to see what they’re saying: http://www.newsy.com/videos/big_week_for_obama

Sep 24, 2009 - 2:25 pm 49. Aaron Byrnes:

“Sorry to those who wrote me, but I can no more get on the anti-Johnson bandwagon than I could the birth certificate allegations about Obama (why he won’t release his college transcripts is a far more interesting and valid inquiry).”

VDH escapes the charge of birtherism and conspiracy theoriest by pointing fingers and other more traditional conservatives. This kind of move is typically done by right-of-center types who wish to appear reasonalble to the establishment powers.

The reason that BHOs hidden school records are so “intersting” is the SAME reason why BHO needs to produce the long form birth certificate. Its got to be something beyond the simple fact that maybe his grades weren’t so great.

My theory is that he claimed a foreign nationality on his school apps to appear more attractive a candidate and perhaps his birth certificate was issued based on the attestation of an adult rather than an ordinary Hawaiian hosptical birth.

In either case, all candidates for President should routinely provide primary documentation (birth, education etc…) the way John McCain did after the Dems in Congress went ‘birther’ on him.

Does raising this issue make me a conspiracy nut or someone too much of a right wing knuckle dragger for one of VDH’s cocktail parties? Or is it also a “valid” inquiry.

Sep 24, 2009 - 3:05 pm 50. turfmonster:

Your advice on how to approach the national debate is sound. However, I’d love to see the New Left go down hard. Very, very hard.

They won’t be missed and the sooner this happens, the better.

Sep 24, 2009 - 3:15 pm 51. Politics for dummies:

Here is the most dangerous part of Obama’s campaign “change” mantra.

Does it extend to his resolve to protect the United States?

Today, the Russians are holding continuous meetings to try to decide if Kennedy’s promise of “full retaliatory response” in the event of an attack on Israel extends to the Obama administration.

The scenario: Israel attacks Iran within the month. Russia attacks Israel, wipes it off the map.

What does Obama do then?

Obama’s mindless, fecal-filled, marxist ideology has led us to this.

I question whether this was always Obama’s secret grand plan.

Another Cuban missile crisis is just around the corner. I fear for us all. Obama’s recklessness could get us killed.

I know your knee jerk reaction is to dismiss this as a possibility. But when the main stream media starts sniffing around these scenarios, you know it’s real. It hasn’t happened yet.

Fox is talking about this, but in dribs and drabs.

Sep 24, 2009 - 3:17 pm 52. T. J. Babson:

VDH: “There must be some Microsoft automatic program that writes these speeches.”

I am sure the automatic program must be from Apple.

Sep 24, 2009 - 3:24 pm 53. steeple:

Middleman, very convincing argument. I’m going to rush down to the Voters Registration office tomorrow and become a Democrat.

Sep 24, 2009 - 3:24 pm 54. Cybergeezer:

I do disagree with the reasonable, measured, and polite method of confronting the liberals and progressives; If I go to Iraq or Afghanistan, I’m certainly not taking peanut butter sandwiches and a couple of sling shots.
This is a war between the people of the United States getting the correct, unbiased news, the main stream media that has sold its soul to the devil (or Obama, whichever is more lucrative at the moment), and a Congress that harbors its criminals and criminal activity. And these two entities are stealing funds from the very people they wish to battle. This is worse than getting mugged; At least when you are mugged, the mugger runs off after they rob you, but these perps will not go away. They are like gangs that establish themselves in your neighborhood. We the People have not really decided to get rid of these thieves, and there will always be individuals that will succumb to their dominance and veiled threats.
And some may feel the glory achieved by joining them is greater reward.
Many will not be deterred from their voyage to doom; I am at a loss for a Shakespearean comment here, but I know there is one that applies.
Instilling moral and mental anguish into the progressives/liberals is all but impossible.

Sep 24, 2009 - 3:28 pm 55. Ruebacca:

I got band from little green footballs for pointing out that reisting islam drives a society to the wall. If a school bus in Isreal is blowen to bits the Palistians will had out candy. Those who have succsfully stop muslim advances were not hero’s of secular humanism. Charles the hammer, Cathrine the Great, Vlad the impailer, Serbs of any era and the Reconcquest Spainish were not wimps.

Dr Hanson do you have an example of a secular humanist roling back islam? Bush?

Sep 24, 2009 - 3:38 pm 56. Noesis Noeseos:

I have scarcely thought about CJ and LGF since I was banned last November after some 1400 comments and over 100 news tips. I was especially angry at some recent actions of the jihadis (Gaza rockets?) and I said something to the effect that, even though I knew it was not rational, if I were to give in to the extremity of my anger, I would rejoice in mass deportations of Muslims (from the Gaza Strip?). Bam! I was shut off, no appeal, no opportunity for exculpation. Sharmuta who commented here (#6) will know my lizard name; she even made a little attempt to appeal for clemency. But to no avail.

CJ had become obsessed with the Darwinism/Creationism controversy. It is a topic worth some discussion, but not thread after thread for months on end. He could not look at groups like Flemish Interest (Vlaams Belang) with any nuance at all. Now, that group may have some far-right ties of the blood and soil variety, but its spokesman claims VB are friends of Israel. And they make the point that no “mainstream” party in Europe is addressing the incursion of sharia. My guess is the the issue of how Nazi-like VB is, is not cut and dry; usually people who hate Jews make no bones about it. But Charles would not even allow any evidence in his “court” that would mitigate their position. And, yes, he practiced a Stalinist regime of guilt by association, along with associated purges–including those of Pamela Geller (admittedly, a rather bombastic person) and Baron Bodissey of Gates of Vienna (an altogether sober, serious, and committed defender of the West against militant jihadism).

I am not saying he is operating entirely from delusion, and, after all, LGF is his blog; but Charles Johnson certainly had become something of the one-party man he so thoroughly disdained.

Sep 24, 2009 - 3:40 pm 57. vb:

Aaron Byrnes,

The simple fact is that most people don’t find the birth certificate issue as interesting as you do. I think it is far better to do as VDH says and concentrate our efforts on the distortions, hypocrisies, and contradictions and to present them in a reasonable way. Only when people realize that what they bought in November was not what they thought will they demand more information. Maybe someday, someone will even tell us how he did in science class, if he ever took one.

Sep 24, 2009 - 4:24 pm 58. Sparky:

Unlike other posters, I didn’t have that much experience with LGF and would check his site maybe once a week. However, I noticed recently his escalation in picking fights with so many right wing sights. The thing that struck me was his posting about the 9/12 rally, as he was live-blogging it. He said he was watching C-Span and saw “dozens upon dozens” of Obama=Hitler signs and stopped counting them, there were so many. Well, I was watching C-Span the whole time too and did not see any. I saw some still photos later that showed such signs and they were associated with Lyndon Larouche. He also argued for days that there was hardly anybody there. Didn’t look that way to me. I don’t know, these rambles sound kinda off the crazy charts to me.

Sep 24, 2009 - 5:16 pm 59. Sanddog:

On the LGF “controversy”. I fully support the right of Charles to run his blog in whatever manner he sees fit. If he wants to allow Sharmuta to run rampant like a rabid pit bull, bullying and threatening other members, that’s his right. I mourn for the old LGF but there are plenty of people to take his place.

Sep 24, 2009 - 5:43 pm 60. stuiec:

I am curious to know what arbiter decides what is “a moral position concerning ethnic nationalists and white supremacists.” For example, is it not enough to denounce ethnic nationalism and white supremacism? Is breathing from the same planet’s atmosphere as members of European nationalist parties sufficient to make, say, Robert Spencer into a crypto-Nazi?

It’s disturbing to know there are unreasonable people who wish to smear people the right by shunning them with accusations of sympathies with ethnic nationalists and white supremacists, based on the thinnest of evidence. It’s especially disturbing to see someone fall for the same cheap tricks, like for instance fauxtography, that he once ferreted out and denounced, all because he has a desperate need to never have to admit he is wrong about anything.

Sep 24, 2009 - 5:45 pm 61. Dynomitejim:

Genghis:

His speech yesterday confirms what you say…good post.

Sep 24, 2009 - 5:49 pm 62. neverquit:

Regarding LGF, I have always found Johnson’s writings, and research rock solid. I agree with 90% of the things on the website. However, I ceased frequenting the site because I feel Johnson is a little sensitive on some of the comments. But it is his site, and not my place to tell him how to run it….

I once made what I felt was a solid comment on LGF about Nazis being more to the left, citing the fact the fact that National Socialism had the “State” control virtually all facets of life; including businesses – controlling what was produced and how much, education – controlling what was taught, religion – controlling what was preached, media – controlling what was reported…et.al. All things anathema to modern American Conservatism. (While I agree that the Nazis began with a lot of support from the “German Conservative Right”)…I acknowledge that I may not have communicated this as clearly as possible; but afterall, it is a blog, and not a dissertation……Johnson and others sought to speak their mind, I made an “off color joke”, not anything vulgar or profane mind you – and bam from Johnson, the threat to be banned…..Well, have not been back since….No biggy, I am sure I am not missed, and I don’t miss his site either….

Sep 24, 2009 - 6:01 pm 63. Dave Surls:

“Mr. President, Mr. Secretary-General, fellow delegates, ladies and gentleman: it is my honor to address you for the first time as the forty-fourth President of the United States. I come before you humbled by the responsibility that the American people have placed upon me; mindful of the enormous challenges of our moment in history; and determined to act boldly and collectively on behalf of justice and prosperity at home and abroad.”–The New Messiah

Interesting choice of words. The Security Council often uses this same format in their various resolutions…first they’re “mindful” of this, then they’re “determined” to do that (and, then of course, they usually do nothing unless we insist that it be done…but I digress).

Example:

“UNSC Resolution 1696″

“…Concerned by the proliferation risks presented by the Iranian nuclear programme, mindful of its primary responsibility under the Charter of the United Nations for the maintenance of international peace and security, and being determined to prevent an aggravation of the situation”

Maybe Barry would be happier with a position in the U.N., since he talks their talk. I know I’d be happier with him in the U.N., instead of in the U.S. government. He’d fit right in too. He’s way more of a one-worlder, than he is an American.

Sep 24, 2009 - 6:04 pm 64. Peg:

Dr. Hanson, I had the honor and pleasure of seeing you a few years ago at the U of MN law school. Let me simply state that you are a thinker and man whom I respect highly.

That being said – perhaps you should look a bit deeper at the cheerleading cesspool that defines the comments section of LGF today.

I had been curious about the shift in tone and focus of LGF. In the past, I commented only rarely there. In an attempt to defend Rush Limbaugh and a recent satire, I was subjected to the most vile slurs and attacks about my values my views and my person – by people who literally know nothing about me. When someone who shared my views got banned, that person requested that I send a quick, benign message to someone else there.

When I did, bang; that was it. I myself was banned.

I never used vulgar language, hurled insults … I simply tried to argue in a fair and balanced manner. For this, I was first insulted up and down – then quickly banned. Apparently you toe the party line – or – you’re out.

Please review again, Dr. Hanson, and see if your original opinion holds up. The Charles Johnson I once enjoyed and admired has vanished.

Sep 24, 2009 - 6:45 pm 65. Greying Wanderer:

I’d suggest a variation on your tactics.

A solid main phalanx of calm reasonableness set up in a good defensive position on the high ground while a swarm of very aggressive, nimble and slightly psycho peltasts try to provoke an assault by throwing javelins at the enemy at close range and then finally some very effective heavy cavalry to turn a retreat into a rout.

People like yourself would play the role of phalanx. People like Beck and Limbaugh would play the peltasts. The heavy cavalry would be candidates in 2010 and 2012.

I’d suggest the problem lies more in the third category.

Sep 24, 2009 - 6:48 pm 66. J.E. Dyer:

Face it, professor, you’re just All That. Congrats on filling up your trip so quickly.

I was interested to learn about the mail you’ve been getting. It appears to me that we’re on our second polarizing president in a row: first Bush, who did some good things but very much alienated the isolationist/curmudgeonly/tinfoil-hat wing of the right; and now Obama, who begins to make some of those Rightnuts look not quite so crazy (at least some of the things they always complain about seem to have a better prospect of actually being realized).

It looks to me as if the talent we will need in our leaders, going forward, is that of knowing when to compromise and when to stand their ground. A great deal of the political and economic capital left us by preceding generations has, in fact, been spent. Our margins are slimmer now, for “paying for” the compromises we make to avoid confrontation and kick cans down the road.

With respect to Obamacare, for example, there really is no compromise that will avert the gradual encroachment of government on control of our health care system. Compromise of any kind will merely slow the process down. We have reached that point, and there are only two choices: go forward into nationalized health care, or prevent, right now, the passage of ANY legislation that has the approval of the Obama-voting left.

In addition to the latter, it is possible to look toward retaking Congress in 2010 and 2012, and undoing at least some of the government regulation that makes health insurance cost what it does today. But that prospect has meaning only in the context of averting the 2009 health reform proposals now before Congress.

There are a number of issues on which we face this reality: the margin for procrastination is virtually gone. Compromise will inevitably lead us into greater debt, loss of freedom, discontent, and — in the geopolitical realm — increasingly imperiled national security. It’s not enough to try to slow down the slide. Reversing it is essential.

Reversing long-term political trends always seems revolutionary, and inevitably disrupts constituencies and sinecures. It’s a question for the ages, how to do that while remaining patient, cheerful, optimistic, and reasoned. We could look to Reagan for some answers on that, and to a very few other statesmen from across history. But in our cheer and optimism and goodwill, we will have to remember that life as we know it will not continue, unless we take action now. There is nothing in the storehouse left to live off of.

Sep 24, 2009 - 6:48 pm 67. My head may explode « Way Too Opinionated:

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Sep 24, 2009 - 6:56 pm 68. Nancy Lopez:

As a onetime reader (not a commenter) at LGF, I find the behavior of Charles Johnson quite strange and sad. I take it that he has delinked Pajamas Media, the organization he co-founded, because they published the work of RS McCain, who according to Johnson, is a racist. Since I don’t know McCain, I have no opinion about that. What I do know is, as a frequent reader of Pajamas Media, I barely recognized McCain’s name. They publish dozens, maybe hundreds, of writers here, some of them regularly like VDH, Roger Kimball, Roger Simon, Jennifer Rubin, etc. That’s why I come here. I think Mr. Johnson has a problem and it’s not RS McCain, it’s himself.

Sep 24, 2009 - 7:09 pm 69. David Thomson:

“…first Bush, who did some good things but very much alienated the isolationist/curmudgeonly/tinfoil-hat wing of the right”

That not quite accurate. George W. Bush also alienated the center-right segment of the conservative movement. The sensible people also lost faith in him. Victor Davis Hanson, for instance, often took Bush 43 to task regarding illegal immigration, the way the war was earlier fought in Iraq, and host of other issues. Are you implying that our host is some sort of right-wing nut job?

Sep 24, 2009 - 7:12 pm 70. Noesis Noeseos:

re 66: we may hope and work for a reversal or a halting in 2010 of some of Obama’s socialistic initiatives, but the lasting damage has already been set in place: it bears the name Sotomayor, for with her Obama has not merely pushed passing policy farther leftward towards the abyss but has worked his deconstructive will against the Constitution itself.

Sep 24, 2009 - 7:25 pm 71. Dave Surls:

“People like yourself would play the role of phalanx. People like Beck and Limbaugh would play the peltasts. The heavy cavalry would be candidates in 2010 and 2012.”

Sounds good, but I get to be Alexander the Great, or I ain’t playing.

Sep 24, 2009 - 7:53 pm 72. Noesis Noeseos:

I am willing to make a little bet with Dr. Hanson. Let him register at LGF with a non-obvious “lizard name” and then make a comment or a few even mildly dissenting from CJ’s orthodoxy (should he find himself in disagreement). If he, having dissented, should survive two weeks without being banned, I’ll contribute $500 to a fund of his choosing that promotes the study of classical Greek. If he should be banned within that time, he will agree to announce the fact in his Works and Days column here on PJ Media and to record a recitation by himself of Sophocles Antigone ll 450 – 457 and Plato Symposium 189d ff (the speech of Aristophanes on Love) to be enunciated and “sung” according to W.S. Allen’s conventions in Vox Graeca and that he make the recording (as a CD or as a .mpg file) available to anybody here on PJ that should request it within 3 months. I’ll take his word regarding the outcome of his visit to LGF.

He but need give me his word online that he survived, and I shall contact him with my real name and the money.

But even if he should not be banned, I’ll ask him to report on the tenor of the comments and how polite his dissent was treated.

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:00 pm 73. Brian:

In the meantime Benjamin Netanyahu hits a home run right out of the park and really sticks it to the UN.Thats a real leader who speaks truth.Ill stand by Israel and their leadership anytime.

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:05 pm 74. arhooley:

I knew as soon as I saw “Little Green” that this column would gather a lot of comments.

Mr. Hanson, let’s forget Charles’s beliefs or his content for a moment. But consider his behavior. Why has he banned about 1300 members? What’s with the purge?

http://kirls.blogspot.com/2009/05/banned-monium.html

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:29 pm 75. Fred Flintstone:

What a deceptive article. With all of the issues surrounding the U.N. speeches, VDH chooses to end his article writing about LGF? I’m sorry VDH, although you might be CJ’s friend you are dead wrong about LGF. Over the years, it has metamorphasized from an interesting blog concerned primarily with Islamofascism and national security to a strange site filled with sycophants ranting about creationists, birthers, white supremacists, Ron Paul, etc. Any dissenting voices are immediately banned and the site is patrolled by a gang of Chavez-like hoodlums.

CJ has routinely attacked any blogger that he differs with including Pamela of Atlas Shrugs, Robert Spencer, etc. and rather than maintaining a civil discourse, he demonstrates extreme paranoia and angst. Although, he was part of PJmedia’s inception he quickly parted ways and bans links to this venture as well. Pretty soon the only links he will allow will be the Huffington Post and perhaps the WH?

The problem isn’t that CJ holds liberal views (I could actually respect him for that), but he exerts an almost dictatorial and self-righteous stance that is strikingly similar to Obama, Chavez, or Zalaya. His lack of insight and ability to self-reflect is stunning and pathetic. For CJ it’s either his way or the highway and that is hardly democratic. For one who is supposedly so concerned about democratic values, his actions are quite contrary.

When I think of all of the good things that CJ has been involved in; Rathergate, Fauxtography, highlighting Islamofascism, it is extremely distressing to see him descend into such a dark, paranoid, and hateful place. I hope and pray that CJ finds some peace and emerges from whatever ails him.

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:43 pm 76. arhooley:

53. steeple:

I would like to borrow that line.

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:53 pm 77. marymcl:

@54 Cybergeezer “I am at a loss for a Shakespearean comment here, but I know there is one that applies.”

Either there is a civil strife in heaven, or else the world, too saucy with the gods, incenses them to send destruction

~ Julius Caesar

Sep 24, 2009 - 8:57 pm 78. donttreadonme:

…besides the roads, sewers, security, public baths, libraries, schools, law and order, monetary system, aquaducts, and architecture, what have the Romans done for us?
People’s Front of Judea, circa 32 AD
(predecessor to the Obamarxist Movement)

Sep 24, 2009 - 9:05 pm 79. donttreadonme:

Long live the ‘Scripter Movement! Can you just imagine the radical bilge of Obama’s college papers and coursework? It must be beyond the pale for it to be shoved so far down the rabbit hole. What an absolute horrific joke this POTUS is. What a babbling brook of nonsense, the sound and the fury signifying nothing. Congrats, Jimmah, you may very well not die as the worst ever!

Sep 24, 2009 - 9:12 pm 80. Robohobo:

Sharmuta @ 6:

Thank you for your reasoned position concerning Mr. Charles Johnson, Sir. It’s comforting to know there are still reasonable people on the right who are not interested in shunning those with a moral position concerning ethnic nationalists and white supremacists.

Doc, I agree with your view point most of the time. On LGF, you miss the point. It took me all of 30 minutes to be banned at LGF because I dared disagree with one of his minions. Simply disagree. And I got banned from his private club.

The internet spirit is one of open exchange. Now, while CJ does own and pay for the domain, he runs it like his own private club and that is okay, as do Malkin and others who run sites with closed registration policies. If they choose to do that, more power to them BUT I will not contribute one click nor donation via anything to bolster their closed mindedness. And mark this, they are just as closed minded as the elitists they tend to rail against.

Sep 24, 2009 - 9:19 pm 81. George S.:

IMO obama’s speech wasn’t worthy of a high school valedictorian

below are links which go a long way in explaining where we are and how we got here

I thought obama was juat a marxist ..he does follow the marxist rule book and he has surrounded himself with marxists (do the trolls know he is marxist and by default they are supporting marxism)

..any way after seeing this blog I now see that the marxist part is small potatoes …he is a mental defect …a retard. well at least a narcissist. …and that is bad news for everyone.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

An all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration or adulation and lack of empathy, usually beginning by early adulthood and present in various contexts. Five (or more) of the following criteria must be met:

•Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents to the point of lying, demands to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
•Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist), bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion
•Is firmly convinced that he is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special, unique, or high-status people (or institutions)
•Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation, or failing that, wishes to be feared and notorious (narcissistic supply)
•Feels entitled. Expects unreasonable or special and favorable priority treatment. Demands automatic and full compliance with his expectations
•Is “interpersonally exploitative” i.e., uses others to achieve his or her own ends
•Is devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with or acknowledge the feelings and needs of others
•Is constantly envious of others or believes that they feel the same about him or her
•Is arrogant, has haughty behaviors or attitudes coupled with rage when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted

…so from that stand point he is doing well for a retard.

here is a link for the people who think they can engage a troll with a positive result.

here is a link for the people who think they can engage a troll with a positive result.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIFcnctnHsE&feature=related

Sep 24, 2009 - 10:02 pm 82. geoffgo:

The UN – Withdraw, Defund, Evict

Middleman = someone dead-center in the pack of lemmings as they all go over the cliff

Sep 24, 2009 - 10:16 pm 83. Frieda:

Dear Victor Davis Hanson,
I have been an avid reader for many years.
I appreciate your support of Charles Johnson, who is a staunch anti-idiotarian.
Keep up the good work!
Freida

Sep 24, 2009 - 10:31 pm 84. Dave Surls:

To sum up…

Obama’s speech was a string of trite platitudes, most of which have been around for decades. A real yawnfest.

LGF is a waste of bandwidth. I go there to watch the virtual inquisition, but other than providing some mild amusement (kinda like seeing a microcosm of Stalin’s police state, only no one gets hurt in the purges), it’s basically worthless.

#83

It’s essentially impossible to be an anti-idiotarian and also an idiot at the same time.

Sep 24, 2009 - 11:03 pm 85. Thor:

Dr. Hanson,
Usually your analyses are on the money, but what happened to your careful consideration of the facts on the subject of LGF? It seems you came to the conclusion after a cursory glance of the site. It is not an accident that there are so many sites de-linking LGF.

CJ has accused so many conservatives in good standing of racism, fascism and whatever-ism for no good reason at all. Why? Simply because they know someone who belongs to organizations/parties that CJ believes to be fascists. If there is ever a guilty verdict by two-degree association, this is it. And if they had the temerity to argue, CJ would banned them from his site, even so far as banning visitors to his site whose web browser referrer is his “enemies’” URL. I think it borders on paranoia.

Sep 25, 2009 - 12:01 am 86. arhooley:

#83

So is it “Frieda” or “Freida”? You start with one and sign off with the other. Or is it Sharmuta?

Sep 25, 2009 - 12:16 am 87. vb:

Is the LGF issue really more important than Obama’s actions? It seems like a distraction to me.

Sep 25, 2009 - 2:05 am 88. Jack’s Newswatch » Blog Archive » Sleeping Through Speeches:

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Sep 25, 2009 - 3:20 am 89. moron:

“why he won’t release his college transcripts is a far more interesting and valid inquiry.” Wrong. Both are interesting and valid, and both have high potential for very serious legal ramifications.

Sep 25, 2009 - 5:01 am 90. bill:

“If conservatives can stay cheery, optimistic and reasoned”

That is a huge “if”. It’s beginning to look more like the impeachment of Bill Clinton whereby the Republican’s made themselves look foolish to all but the far right. They hurt themselves far more than they did Bill Clinton. (Both Clinton’s are still big players, where is the Republican lynch mob that attempted to crucify him?) The intelligent thing to do (in the eyes of middle America) would be cooperate in a reasonable manner rather than obstruct with whatever straws they can grasp.

The country as a whole stood by Bush/Cheney because we elected them. We also elected Obama/Biden. The Republican’s need to get over it. Why keep marginalizing themselves over stuff few American’s agree with them about?

Sep 25, 2009 - 5:26 am 91. Al Reasin:

You wrote, “I think the key to stopping the Obama remaking of the U.S. is calm and reasoned analysis”. I don’t disagree, but it appears that congress is going to “reform” our health care whether or not 85% of us are satisfied with what we now have. So instead of looking at tort reform or loosening regulations that inhibit insurance competition, we will have a complete remake of our health care delivery system.

I have seen that even our “march” on DC on 9/12 will not stop ObamaCare and even after our show of distaste for the government option, Speaker Pelosi has reinstated it in HR 3200. Thus the economic freedom issues (i.e. mandatory health care requirement under government mandates) and civil liberties (i.e. IRS held financial and doctors/hospital held medical records released to the government) will remain in some form. I don’t trust the conference committee outcome even if the Senate bill is milder in appearance, which it seems not to be in the first place.
Our efforts to remain non-violent and civil has not worked with congress and this administration, but those of us who oppose ObamaCare and other infringements on our liberties have not yet utilized the full range of MLK’s peaceful tactics. We should be prepared to follow the example set in Tennessee to shut down government after the governor and legislature proposed to vote in and approve a state income tax in 1999. The MSM seems to have neglected to report much on this, so go to glennreynolds.com/?p=8 for some details.

With the reported 26,000 TEA Party organizations in our great country, we could make life difficult for those cloistered in DC.

Sep 25, 2009 - 5:32 am 92. Ron Kean:

45. Middleman

You’re correct.

No…to the communist Van Jones
No…to ACORN promoting prostitution
No…to wild high funding of huge programs
No…to having NEA artist propaganda
No…to saving the snail darter
No…to bullying democracic countries
No…to kissing up to dictators

Sep 25, 2009 - 7:07 am 93. The Monster:

“Malkin and others who run sites with closed registration policies. If they choose to do that, more power to them BUT I will not contribute one click nor donation via anything to bolster their closed mindedness”

Malkin has closed registration, but allows dissenting viewpoints, so long as they don’t violate standards of civility (such as posting racist comments about the First Lady). There are healthy debates in the comment threads.

Sep 25, 2009 - 7:32 am 94. Paul -Indiana:

#81. George, your bullet points largely describe La Raza as well as LaBama.

Sep 25, 2009 - 8:39 am 95. quesnay:

Professor Hanson,

With so much bad stuff happening in our country, I am perplexed why you felt a need to write about Little Green Footballs and Charles Johnson on Pajamas Media. Perhaps an entry on NRO’s the corner would have sufficed.

Sep 25, 2009 - 8:51 am 96. wondering:

Why would Obama need typical war stratagy? It is not that important in his mind.

You see, he can always bankrupt a country into defeat. Not so much blood that way. And as an added bonus, he can sound so genuinely concerned for the people, while he undermines their opportunities.

Sep 25, 2009 - 9:33 am 97. Concerned Citizen:

With all due respect, Dr. Hanson, you are profoundly mistaken about LGF and the drastic turn it has taken lately.

While Charles Johnson has done great work in the past on the Rathergate & Fauxtography scandals and exposing threatening jihadist fanatics in positions of power, his point of view has deteriorated and become blinkered, coupled with a complete intolerance of any opposing viewpoints.

His website, which once had a mission along the lines indicated above, has now become directionless and purposeless.

It appears that Mr Johnson has entirely lost track of why he does what he does. Furthermore, he becomes irritated when you ask him what the point is of what he’s doing anymore.

He truly no longer seems interested in opposing jihadism. His viewpoint incredibly seems to be that they no longer seem to be much of a threat.

He bans people on his site for the flimsiest of reasons.

Now that his interest has fallen to posting topics that seem expressly designed to irritate and provoke conservatives, so that he can enjoy watching them get angry — such as posting multiple threads in favor of whoever has the rock-bottom lowest estimate of the level of attendance at the 912 rallies — his site has fallen hard.

He has banned so many people from his site, and so many others have left. LGF is simply a depressing and obnoxious shadow of what it once was. And he bans people on his site for the flimsiest of reasons.

If I were advising Mr Johnson I’d tell him to turn off the computer for a good long while and take a long vacation, perhaps at a spa or a mountain retreat. He needs an attitude adjustment very badly and whatever true friends he has remaining would really do him a service to tell him to take better care of himself.

Sep 25, 2009 - 9:35 am 98. loghueriat:

Nuance: “I can no more get on the anti-Johnson bandwagon than I could the birth certificate allegations about Obama.”

VDH is on a different intellectual plane that CJ; everyone knows this. Charles is not his spiritual mentor and he never attended the church of Little Green Footballs. What reason does he have to get on that bandwagon? He has no explaining to do. Refusing to draw lines around Johnson demonstrates his superiority. Charles draws lines around everyone and you want Hanson to do the same in turn? What does he possibly have to gain from that? More fervent admiration? Maybe, as opposed to Charles Johnson, that is not his goal.

Sep 25, 2009 - 9:52 am 99. stuiec:

“Sorry to those who wrote me, but I can no more get on the anti-Johnson bandwagon than I could the birth certificate allegations about Obama”

Maybe you could talk him off the ledge? The one where he defines Glenn Beck and Robert Spencer and Pajamas Media as greater threats to America than Al-Qaeda or Iran (as measured by column-inches he devotes to the respective subjects)?

Sep 25, 2009 - 10:27 am 100. njoriole:

Dr. Hanson:
I greatly admire, and appreciate, your on-going efforts. Likewise, I was always an admirer of Charles Johnson’s LGF site, even when I had some disagreements (never major) with some individual positions of his. Lately however, he seems to have become a bit unhinged, unable (or unwilling) to brook ANY opposition, however minor and/or respectful. In my own case, I wrote my disagreement in response to a post of his, and was greeted with a condescension and derision that would have been right at home on the Daily Kos, or on Andrew Sullivan’s blog. When I disagreed a second time (actually, more like pointed out an alternative take on the particular situation), I was summarily banned from the site. This doesn’t strike me as the action of a respectful, fair-minded individual, but rather of a petty, small-minded tyrant. Of course, it’s his site, so he has every right to run it the way he wishes, it’s just a bit sad to see the change in tone and direction. For myself, I will remember and respect the yeoman’s work done by CJ in the past in fighting the good fight, just as I remember and respect the sound, intelligent postings of the pre-DOMA Andrew Sullivan. In both cases, however, what once was a pleasure and an education, for me, became an unbearable torture; not being a masochist, I have removed the irritation from my life.

Sep 25, 2009 - 10:31 am 101. Thomas_L......:

Your support of Johnson, at least, proves you’re human Doc. No ones’s always right and I was starting to worry about you. I actually defended him once, myself. I used to like his link viewer and was happy where it led me. Until, that is, hearing the controversy, I actually visited his comment section. Unlike Freida, I see the new CJ as a neo-idiotarian himself. Power corrupts, even pissant power. If you read his personal comments on that uber-controlling site, you’ll find he’s not all that bright or well-informed either. And his sycophantic minions? Don’t even get me started. I was pleased to ban myself.

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Sep 25, 2009 - 11:11 am 103. quesnay:

Dr. Hanson,

I very rarely posted anything on little green footballs, and certainly nothing too controversial. I have been a member of LGF for many, many years before there was even any registration required.

It’s interesting after my post # 95 today, I was suddenly banned from LGF, simply for suggesting that NRO’s the corner, rather than Pajamas Media would be a better place for your comments on Charles Johnson. Don’t you find this sort of creepy and bizarre?

Sep 25, 2009 - 12:24 pm 104. phill howerton:

Professor Hanson:

My own opinion of Obama, as best as I can make it out, is that he is a profoundly uneducated, perhaps even stupid, man who is a utopian, one-worlder. Where does that come from? I can’t remember: the Thirties? Or earlier? He is a dreamer, with no knowledge or understanding of history.

I knew we were in trouble when he sent Churchill’s bust back the fiirst day he was in office.

He is also being given terrible advice by his advisors, who represent by far the biggest collection of radicals ever to make it into influential positions in Washington, much less into the White House. His science advisor, John Holdren, is a truly radical socialist. The individual he sent over to the State Department as legal counsel is a world-government guy. It is trite, but true, to say that they have overreached their electoral victory. But trite, because it really is Obama who is driving the ship. And I think that he is going to be fundamentally incapable of altering his course. If the ship goes down, I think he will relish going down with it; depending on some future historian, in some never-to-happen future world to write of his prescient greatness.

Sep 25, 2009 - 1:38 pm 105. Carl Sesar:

“Obama’s rejection of American exceptionalism shows that he does not understand that America made him — he does not make America.”

America didn’t make him. First of all, his expatriate marxist mother and Kenyan marxist father made him, biologically of course, but politically, also. Barack Hussein Obama is a red-diaper baby. As the twig is bent, so is the tree inclined. Then, during his formative early childhood years, he was educated in a Muslim school.

After that, now named Barry Soetoro and left in the care of his mother’s parents in Hawaii, he was mentored by the black anti-American communist, Frank Marshall Davis. Later, in college, he sought out similar influences as teachers and friends.

To make a long story short, in Chicago 20 years with like-minded Rev. Jeremiah Wright of “G-d Damn America” fame, a community organizer in radical Saul Alinsky inspired ACORN, close relationship with the America-hating terrorist William Ayers, etc.

Forces aimed at destroying America made him.

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Sep 25, 2009 - 2:50 pm 107. jic:

“My own opinion of Obama, as best as I can make it out, is that he is a profoundly uneducated, perhaps even stupid, man who is a utopian, one-worlder.”

You are right about “utopian one-worlder”, but Obama is neither uneducated nor stupid. In fact, he is a highly educated and intelligent man, who unfortunately is also both extremely arrogant and extremely foolish.

Sep 25, 2009 - 8:03 pm 108. Barb:

Pride goeth before a fall. False pride that is what the President exhibits. Barack Hussein Obama M,M,M, will not take us into the pit of vipers and radicals without a fight. M.M.M. Ridicule, smooth words, wide smile, anger – none of what he is projecting on WE the People, who abhor his ideals and his associations, will deter us in the crusade to TAKE BACK THE AMERICA OF OUR FOREFATHERS. And leave our school children alone M.M.M. We know M.M.M. indoctrination when we see it. M.M.M. America waits for its Presidents to live a life of accomplishment before we lavish the kind of respect Obama wants now, M.M.M. right now. M.M.M. Simply childish behavior and insulting to the intelligence of the American people. M.M.M.

Sep 25, 2009 - 11:59 pm 109. pelaut:

And the forces aimed at destroying America now control him.

Sep 26, 2009 - 6:25 am 110. tanstaafl:

Obama’s rejection of American exceptionalism shows that he does not understand that America made him — he does not make America.

nonono, the 230 years or so previous to the coming of One™ were wholly without meaning and sense, except for the craven barbarity exhibited by the craven and barbarous norte americanos.

Capiche ?

Try as I might to avoid listening to Obama’s speeches, when I catch any inkling of his routine (”we’ve rectified a whole lot of bad about this country in my brief 9 months in office”), my disgust meter arcs dangerously into the red.

I took office at a time when many around the world had come to view America with skepticism and distrust.

Whereas now they’re just laughing behind their hands, delighted that Obama seems willing (in his continuous, self-righteous apologetics) to bring the United States down to Paper Tiger status.


Vowing to do what it takes in the good war by leaving Iraq—infusing more troops into Afghanistan, and occasionally invading Pakistan—was for candidate Obama always a rhetorical stance that proved both his anti-Iraq War bona fides and his larger credibility on matters of national security.

Despite having pompously declared a comprehensive Afghanistan strategy in March of this year, Obama currently seems content to stall around, voting “present”, stuck between a rock and a hard place, his liberal puppetmasters who want out and his generals, who’d like a decisive outcome.

…the Taliban think that the new administration simply will not stay the course

bin laden (in warning Europe in his just released tape to pull its troops out of Afghanistan) said that, as well.

Sep 26, 2009 - 8:00 am 111. Gaffe Prices:

#105: actually, Frank Davis is 0bamas father.
which makes him someone born out of wedlock. The effort to pretend that he is the product of the Stanley Dunham/Obama Sr. marriage could be explained by any subterfuge where his BC is concerned.

The legal problem is that neither Frank Davis nor Obama Sr. ever legally adopted him. and the only one who did might have been Soetero. If so, then he became the adopted son of Soetero and a citizen of Indonesia.

0bama never applied to become a naturalized citizen of U.S. when he returned to U.S. to stay with his grandparents, on the contrary, he applied to his prep school as a foreign student, Occidental college as a foreign student, Columbia University as a foreign student, Harvard University as a foreign student. This matter could be proven one way or the other with the release of the high school and college records of whom? Barry Soetero or Barack 0bama Jr.?

With what kind of passport did he travel to Pakistan? Indonesian? or U.S.?

The son of Stanley Dunham would be a citizen under any circumstance, and frank Davis was also a citizen of U.S. too.

That ends the matter as far what the birth certificate is concerned. The birth certificate matter focuses on whether or not the birth was in Kenya or Hawaii, but that too is irrelevant, the birth took place in Hawaii as Frank Davis is the father.

Frank Davis never admitted publicly or legally that he was the father of his out of wedlock son.

0bamas citizenship as Indonesian is of little importance until the matter of running for state senator comes into it. the law requires that for one to run for state office, one must be a citizen, or a naturalized citizen, example’s include Senator Lantos, who was born in Greece, but became a naturalized citizen, and therefore eligible for service as state senator.

0bamas Illinois state senator service is null and void if he participated in a fraud that proffered him as a naturalized (former) Indonesian citizen (where’s that paperwork?), or a born citizen of the marriage of Barack 0bama Sr. DNA tests could prove whether or not B.O. is of Frank Davis’ West African heritage, or if B.O. is of East African Heritage.

B.O. is eligible to run for state offices if he is a naturalized citizen, so what was his status? Legally?

B.O. is eligible to run for president as his mother was a U.S. citizen, whether he was born in Kenya or here in U.S. Again, what was his Status? Legally?

We have a right to know. Produce all relevant documents as to his status for school admissions, so the matter can be cleared once and for all.

Funny how the “privacy” issue is invoked, vis avid these relevant documents to a person holding public office, who should be able to be held accountable.

Especially when the health scare/death care proposals in congress sound the death knell to the doctor/patient confidentiality, as all info that can be collected regarding a patients health matters will be in a database available to whom? Countless, faceless bureaucrats with varying loyalties to various ambitious office holders, that’s whom. Remember the 500 FBI files? It was an impeachable offense. No one was held accountable.

I want all relevant documents concerning the president brought out into the open as of now. The birth Certificate is of minor importance compared with the other relevant documents. But we need to know which birth certificate and from where. The fringe press continues to stonewall by dismissing the whole thing out of hand, as a ‘birther issue’.

Not acceptable.

Sep 26, 2009 - 11:26 am 112. Steve:

“It’s comforting to know there are still reasonable people on the right who are not interested in shunning those with a moral position concerning ethnic nationalists”

What if the “ethnic nationalists” are Jewish ethnic nationalists? That is, people who believe that there should exist an ethnic Jewish homelend. What is your “moral position” on them?

Sep 26, 2009 - 11:45 am 113. Gaffe Prices:

“I [Prof Hanson] wrote today about Obama running the country as if he were an Ivy League president and we were his faculty.”

It seems to oscillate between that and one of those out-of-control mutant Frat houses.

kinda schizzy, don’t you think?

Sep 26, 2009 - 12:30 pm 114. Gaffe Prices:

Frat house or Out-House; you make the call.

Sep 26, 2009 - 12:32 pm 115. gs:

Given the possibility that Obama could be the worst President of modern times, some conservative bloggers have nothing better to do than build an “anti-Johnson bandwagon”?

By mismanaging his blog’s comment sections, Charles Johnson has driven away people he might have persuaded. His warnings about toxic elements in the Right are valid and important.

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Sep 26, 2009 - 2:47 pm 117. jic:

“His warnings about toxic elements in the Right are valid and important.”

Except that his definition of “toxic elements” seems to be everybody on the right except for himself (if he ever really considered himself part of the right to start with). For example, he seems almost as eager to paint the Tea Partiers as a bunch of bigots as the Democratic party does.

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Sep 27, 2009 - 12:55 pm 119. Darleen Click:

With all due respect, sir, and I realize you want to avoid any dust up due to your past dealings with Charles Johnson in the personal and LGF’s past steadfastedness in anti-jihadism, but one small indication of Charles Johnson’s slip into Queeg-like mental illness is that he has quoted your defense of him positively, but refuses to link to it because it is posted (here!) at a “white supremacist site”.

Do you find PJ media a “white supremacist site”? If not, you need to look a bit more closely at the devolution of Charles and LGF.

Sep 27, 2009 - 1:49 pm 120. Carl Sesar:

@111

Yes, I’ve heard about Frank Marshall Davis’ possible paternity before this, but not in such detail. Hey, who knows? I’m with you about getting a look at ALL of Obama’s papers, and quick, because he’s done enough damage to the country in nine months on the massive debt alone to bring us to the brink of ruin, and we’re a dead duck if he goes any further. It’s a good bet that there’s stuff in them to create at least an instant crisis of confidence in him sufficient to stop all this in its tracks.

Sep 27, 2009 - 5:17 pm 121. Gaffe Prices:

#119 Ditto; not to mention that it is such a cheerless site.
I stopped going there about four years ago because I couldn’t take it anymore, well before the meltdown.
I took the occasion to go there, and just as you said, only a screen capture of this pajamas media site, (no link! what a control freak!)
I guess I could say I’ll pray for him (I did many times during 2002-5) but that would only make him get real mad.

I appreciate the good professors thorough scholarship tradition, because in addition to that is a wry wit and an hombre not afeared
of a good turn of phrase, in the vernacular; something that drives those other cheerless acedemes to absolute distraction.

Sep 28, 2009 - 4:16 am 122. Gekkobear:

It must be distressing to post your writings at a White Supremacist site; I wonder why you do so.

Do you often defend and support those who attack and slander your co-workers? How often exactly do you believe that any dissent equates a requirement to silence the dissenter?

Go to LGF, with an account that doesn’t clarify that you are you and defend Robert Stacy McCain in any fashion… and watch the instant ban for dissenting from Charles’ option of Robert Stacy McCain.

Maybe you believe that it makes sense for a “serious and bright guy” to never tolerate any dissent… but that seems less serious, and less bright than I’d equate with those labels.

Having at least a moderately open mind would seem a benefit. But perhaps I’m incorrect thinking such a thing. Perhaps a lone-voice echo-chamber is the only way to handle any “debate”?

Sep 28, 2009 - 4:05 pm 123. Drayed Page:

I think it would be great if VDH ran for president. Nobody’s better equipped to heal the rift between America and Europe. He knows the roots of the West and the sources of its strength and its achievement. It may not be PC to say it but this world needs Western leadership. Look at the alternatives: China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, etc.

Oct 8, 2009 - 8:57 am 124. Pastorius:

VDH,
You might be interested to know that Charles Johnson now seems to reject the Demographic argument (made by Mark Steyn and others, including yourself, as I recall) for the danger of Islamist encroachment in Europe.

He has never explicitly stated his opposition to Steyn, that I know of. However, he has discontinued linking to anything Steyn ever writes, and some of his statements (by now, long-forgotten by me) indicate that Johnson rejects the argument out-of-hand.

And incidentally, I was banned from his site because Charles did not like my association with some of the writers at Discarded Lies. The problem? They called him “Nancy” rather than Charles.

I never called him such names, but I was banned for my association with them.

And, by the way, my association was, specifically, that I comment at their site once in awhile, and one of their contributors also contributes to Infidel Bloggers Alliance.

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