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		<title>By: HenryB</title>
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		<dc:creator>HenryB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I joined the Military at seventeen in the early fifties. At the time I wasn’t thinking of anything but getting away from my surroundings, and my surroundings were just as happy to be free of me. After a little more than three years my hitch was over and I mustered out. The military was good for getting a head straight, but a steady life of it was not for me. A year later I was in college, all but a few expenses covered by Uncle Sam, and four years after that I graduated. The stint in the military was the best thing that ever happened to me. It was a very good time for people like me to get ahead. It disappeared after a while. It should never have been allowed to disappear. Why did it disappear? Why do people resent having it back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined the Military at seventeen in the early fifties. At the time I wasn’t thinking of anything but getting away from my surroundings, and my surroundings were just as happy to be free of me. After a little more than three years my hitch was over and I mustered out. The military was good for getting a head straight, but a steady life of it was not for me. A year later I was in college, all but a few expenses covered by Uncle Sam, and four years after that I graduated. The stint in the military was the best thing that ever happened to me. It was a very good time for people like me to get ahead. It disappeared after a while. It should never have been allowed to disappear. Why did it disappear? Why do people resent having it back?</p>
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		<title>By: HenryB</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-race-tightens-up-again-and-again/comment-page-3/#comment-5977</link>
		<dc:creator>HenryB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think it wise to call a prisoner of war a hero and give him medals. It is a new phenomenon and could someday bite us in the ass.  POW’s are out of the war and in a much safer place than a grunt in the trench.

If you ever find yourself in a foxhole with an iron foundry exploding over your head and the guy next to you says,”Frigit, I don’t need this crap, I’m going to tie a white flag to my rifle, give myself up and spill my guts. When it’s all over they will give me a Bronze Star and a Silver Star like McCaine. You are on your own, pal.” 

You are on your own, pal.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think it wise to call a prisoner of war a hero and give him medals. It is a new phenomenon and could someday bite us in the ass.  POW’s are out of the war and in a much safer place than a grunt in the trench.</p>
<p>If you ever find yourself in a foxhole with an iron foundry exploding over your head and the guy next to you says,”Frigit, I don’t need this crap, I’m going to tie a white flag to my rifle, give myself up and spill my guts. When it’s all over they will give me a Bronze Star and a Silver Star like McCaine. You are on your own, pal.” </p>
<p>You are on your own, pal.</p>
<p>Is that what you want?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>888,

I&#039;m not just talking about the current proposal by Webb. I&#039;m talking about previous proposals from giving our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq more artillery and armor for protection to giving them more compensation and medical benefits when they return home wounded. McCain has voted AGAINST all of it while Obama has voted FOR it. Go do some research, kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>888,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not just talking about the current proposal by Webb. I&#8217;m talking about previous proposals from giving our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq more artillery and armor for protection to giving them more compensation and medical benefits when they return home wounded. McCain has voted AGAINST all of it while Obama has voted FOR it. Go do some research, kid.</p>
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		<title>By: 888</title>
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		<dc:creator>888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, you&#039;re everywhere.  Now I&#039;m on the lookout for you &#039;cuz you&#039;re spreading misinformation, and I have an obligation to correct and clarify:  The reason McCain did not/does not support the latest iteration of the GI Bill is because it allows for military members to get full scholarship and other benefits after only serving 3 years in the military. This version also allows for those 3 years to be in non-combat billets, meaning that a 3-year desk job in South Dakota or Virginia can get a serviceman or woman a full scholarship without even having been in combat. This Bill is not only costly, but it also encourages military members to get out after only 3 years service. It is a great inducement by the liberals in Congress to gain the favors of the young veterans, but it is an unfair proposal. My father served 20 years in the Navy, including on a patrol boat on the dangerous Mekong Delta during Vietnam. He’s 100% disabled from his service in the military and from having been sprayed all over his body with Agent Orange. He deserved his GI Bill, which he used to go to school after he retired. Webb’s GI Bill is not fair to those like my father and others who actually served, or are serving, in combat. That’s why McCain didn’t support the latest GI Bill. Get your facts straight before you try to discredit the honorable veteran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you&#8217;re everywhere.  Now I&#8217;m on the lookout for you &#8216;cuz you&#8217;re spreading misinformation, and I have an obligation to correct and clarify:  The reason McCain did not/does not support the latest iteration of the GI Bill is because it allows for military members to get full scholarship and other benefits after only serving 3 years in the military. This version also allows for those 3 years to be in non-combat billets, meaning that a 3-year desk job in South Dakota or Virginia can get a serviceman or woman a full scholarship without even having been in combat. This Bill is not only costly, but it also encourages military members to get out after only 3 years service. It is a great inducement by the liberals in Congress to gain the favors of the young veterans, but it is an unfair proposal. My father served 20 years in the Navy, including on a patrol boat on the dangerous Mekong Delta during Vietnam. He’s 100% disabled from his service in the military and from having been sprayed all over his body with Agent Orange. He deserved his GI Bill, which he used to go to school after he retired. Webb’s GI Bill is not fair to those like my father and others who actually served, or are serving, in combat. That’s why McCain didn’t support the latest GI Bill. Get your facts straight before you try to discredit the honorable veteran.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those of you who have family, friends, or relatives in the Armed Forces serving in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is imperative that I mention these facts below to you. I welcome you all to do your own research on this or Google it.

For a man to be an ex POW in Vietnam who has endured so much torture and punishment and who promotes “Country First” on his campaign, his history should lead him to do better for his fellow men and women in the Armed Forces but here are the FACTS below --- 

1)	For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of more spending for the protection of our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
2)	For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of deploying more armor and artillery for our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
3)	For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation and more medical benefits to our injured troops returning from Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
4)	For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation to our veterans of all the past wars, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.

Please look over these FACTS and do your own research. For a man to promote character, wisdom, and the love for his country; the facts don’t coincide with this man. 

This Election 2008 is a colorless election. It is about two human beings that want to lead our country, either in the right direction or in the wrong direction. We have lived the wrong direction for 8 years and have been in the wrong side of history throughout that time. Do we want to live it again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those of you who have family, friends, or relatives in the Armed Forces serving in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is imperative that I mention these facts below to you. I welcome you all to do your own research on this or Google it.</p>
<p>For a man to be an ex POW in Vietnam who has endured so much torture and punishment and who promotes “Country First” on his campaign, his history should lead him to do better for his fellow men and women in the Armed Forces but here are the FACTS below &#8212; </p>
<p>1)	For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of more spending for the protection of our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.<br />
2)	For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of deploying more armor and artillery for our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.<br />
3)	For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation and more medical benefits to our injured troops returning from Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.<br />
4)	For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation to our veterans of all the past wars, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.</p>
<p>Please look over these FACTS and do your own research. For a man to promote character, wisdom, and the love for his country; the facts don’t coincide with this man. </p>
<p>This Election 2008 is a colorless election. It is about two human beings that want to lead our country, either in the right direction or in the wrong direction. We have lived the wrong direction for 8 years and have been in the wrong side of history throughout that time. Do we want to live it again?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Gore, Jr. did not attend Vanderbilt law school, and I haven&#039;t been able to find any source other than his Senate bio claiming he ever attended any law school, and it is worded extraordinarily vaguely. There are rumors that he was rejected by Vanderbilt. Soviet agent Armand Hammer&#039;s American Senate pal, Gore&#039;s father, didn&#039;t gain him a legacy entree as happened with Harvard.

And by the way, the most despicable character in the Plame affair was the prosecutor Fitzgerald, a supposed independent prosecutor who previously worked for Bill Clinton in the Southern District of New York covering up his bribery and treason scandals under his U.S. Attorney boss. He knew instantly from whom the information in Novak&#039;s column came, and he also knew within days of his investigation&#039;s start that the information was not a secret. She was publicly identified in the 1990&#039;s by her husband buying her an entry in Who&#039;s Who, mentioning her employer. She also appeared at the White House in 1995 or 1996 at a fundraiser Bill Clinton held, which is to say, she could not possibly have been in any covert part of the agency from at least that time, if she had ever been. Her later remarks on &quot;60 Minutes&quot; make it very likely she was never employed that way, but was employed by the Clinton Administration to impersonate a student in France, to gain information for American bidders whose bribes and contributions were paid off by giving them information on French government contracts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore, Jr. did not attend Vanderbilt law school, and I haven&#8217;t been able to find any source other than his Senate bio claiming he ever attended any law school, and it is worded extraordinarily vaguely. There are rumors that he was rejected by Vanderbilt. Soviet agent Armand Hammer&#8217;s American Senate pal, Gore&#8217;s father, didn&#8217;t gain him a legacy entree as happened with Harvard.</p>
<p>And by the way, the most despicable character in the Plame affair was the prosecutor Fitzgerald, a supposed independent prosecutor who previously worked for Bill Clinton in the Southern District of New York covering up his bribery and treason scandals under his U.S. Attorney boss. He knew instantly from whom the information in Novak&#8217;s column came, and he also knew within days of his investigation&#8217;s start that the information was not a secret. She was publicly identified in the 1990&#8217;s by her husband buying her an entry in Who&#8217;s Who, mentioning her employer. She also appeared at the White House in 1995 or 1996 at a fundraiser Bill Clinton held, which is to say, she could not possibly have been in any covert part of the agency from at least that time, if she had ever been. Her later remarks on &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; make it very likely she was never employed that way, but was employed by the Clinton Administration to impersonate a student in France, to gain information for American bidders whose bribes and contributions were paid off by giving them information on French government contracts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed Wallis posted Sep 10, 2008 - 3:47 am,

You do realize that you&#039;ve simultaneously been trying to debunk all of my facts and opinions, throughout all of the articles within this radical Right Wing website, without any thread of facts or arguments on your own to contest mine. All of your replies have been at a kindergarten level, at best. I welcome a written challenge, but please, make it conventional wisdom with facts and specifics to counter other facts and specifics. Don&#039;t keep using the kindergarten style of debate, Ed. Please consider education again as I&#039;ve also stressed to you in other posts, my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Wallis posted Sep 10, 2008 &#8211; 3:47 am,</p>
<p>You do realize that you&#8217;ve simultaneously been trying to debunk all of my facts and opinions, throughout all of the articles within this radical Right Wing website, without any thread of facts or arguments on your own to contest mine. All of your replies have been at a kindergarten level, at best. I welcome a written challenge, but please, make it conventional wisdom with facts and specifics to counter other facts and specifics. Don&#8217;t keep using the kindergarten style of debate, Ed. Please consider education again as I&#8217;ve also stressed to you in other posts, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: MEC2</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEC2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funniest thing about the criticism of Palin&#039;s speech being written by someone else, is that the Joe Biden got in trouble because his really WERE written by someone else...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest thing about the criticism of Palin&#8217;s speech being written by someone else, is that the Joe Biden got in trouble because his really WERE written by someone else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gldnldy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gldnldy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jeff and all who think Iraq was a mistake: once Iraq becomes stable, secure and prosperous, it will be the most important partner and ally we have, because it is in the most strategic location, but also the most volatile region of the world.  Imagine having a fully-functioning and truly free democracy right there in the middle of the Gulf, right next to Saudi, Syria, Iran.  Think of the impact that will have on all   neighboring Muslim countries.  Like the domino theory before with first the rapid spread of communism and then its eventual collapse, one country after another, throughout Eastern Europe, democracy in the Middle East will have enormous impact in the region and will give hope to people of the region who also yearn for peace and freedom and democracy.  Tiny Bahrain and Jordan are already quasi-democracies, and the hope is that other Gulf states will follow suit.  As it is, all of them are yearning (and planning and building) to be the next Dubai.  So give Iraq a chance -- don&#039;t support Obama&#039;s call to considerably draw down our presence there  before the country has even had a chance to stabilize, especially when we&#039;re this close to having a friend like Korea or Japan right there in the Gulf.  

After WWII, it took many years before Germany and Japan became democratic, stable, secure and prosperous.  And they did so with the generous help of their once-enemy, the U.S.  Of course, it didn&#039;t happen overnight for these two countries (like you all want to happen with Iraq), and, as you all know, we still have today, over 60 yrs later, a substantial # of American servicemen stationed in both countries.  South Korea is another compelling example of a strategic alliance with America, strengthened over the years by our military&#039;s presence throughout the country.  Korea was one of the poorest countries 50 yrs ago, and look at it now -- an incredible economic powerhouse and successful democracy.  Again, it didn&#039;t happen overnight.  Today, we&#039;re still in Korea, and, in fact, we wanted to turn over total military control of Republic of Korea (ROK) forces back to the ROK government in 2009, but because the ROK said they were not yet ready, the agreed year is now 2012 -- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6391799.stm. I see the hand-over probably getting delayed even further due to continued saber-rattling by North Korea and because of China&#039;s growing influence in the region.  So, as rich, stable and powerful as Korea is today, it is still saying they are not yet ready to take over control of its own military.  So why would anyone think or expect the budding Iraqi govt to already have that same capability?  It&#039;s totally absurd (naive) of Obama to think Iraqi security, social and political infrastructure should have by now already been in place.  The relative peace and prosperity that took hold of Japan, Germany and Korea took time.  It&#039;s going to take time also with Iraq, but we&#039;re almost there.  You guys don&#039;t see it in the states because the media doesn&#039;t show all the positive improvements that have been going on in Iraq.  Please try to be patient. You&#039;ll see in 5 to 10 years (or maybe longer) that Bush and Blair were completely correct in liberating Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jeff and all who think Iraq was a mistake: once Iraq becomes stable, secure and prosperous, it will be the most important partner and ally we have, because it is in the most strategic location, but also the most volatile region of the world.  Imagine having a fully-functioning and truly free democracy right there in the middle of the Gulf, right next to Saudi, Syria, Iran.  Think of the impact that will have on all   neighboring Muslim countries.  Like the domino theory before with first the rapid spread of communism and then its eventual collapse, one country after another, throughout Eastern Europe, democracy in the Middle East will have enormous impact in the region and will give hope to people of the region who also yearn for peace and freedom and democracy.  Tiny Bahrain and Jordan are already quasi-democracies, and the hope is that other Gulf states will follow suit.  As it is, all of them are yearning (and planning and building) to be the next Dubai.  So give Iraq a chance &#8212; don&#8217;t support Obama&#8217;s call to considerably draw down our presence there  before the country has even had a chance to stabilize, especially when we&#8217;re this close to having a friend like Korea or Japan right there in the Gulf.  </p>
<p>After WWII, it took many years before Germany and Japan became democratic, stable, secure and prosperous.  And they did so with the generous help of their once-enemy, the U.S.  Of course, it didn&#8217;t happen overnight for these two countries (like you all want to happen with Iraq), and, as you all know, we still have today, over 60 yrs later, a substantial # of American servicemen stationed in both countries.  South Korea is another compelling example of a strategic alliance with America, strengthened over the years by our military&#8217;s presence throughout the country.  Korea was one of the poorest countries 50 yrs ago, and look at it now &#8212; an incredible economic powerhouse and successful democracy.  Again, it didn&#8217;t happen overnight.  Today, we&#8217;re still in Korea, and, in fact, we wanted to turn over total military control of Republic of Korea (ROK) forces back to the ROK government in 2009, but because the ROK said they were not yet ready, the agreed year is now 2012 &#8212; <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6391799.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6391799.stm</a>. I see the hand-over probably getting delayed even further due to continued saber-rattling by North Korea and because of China&#8217;s growing influence in the region.  So, as rich, stable and powerful as Korea is today, it is still saying they are not yet ready to take over control of its own military.  So why would anyone think or expect the budding Iraqi govt to already have that same capability?  It&#8217;s totally absurd (naive) of Obama to think Iraqi security, social and political infrastructure should have by now already been in place.  The relative peace and prosperity that took hold of Japan, Germany and Korea took time.  It&#8217;s going to take time also with Iraq, but we&#8217;re almost there.  You guys don&#8217;t see it in the states because the media doesn&#8217;t show all the positive improvements that have been going on in Iraq.  Please try to be patient. You&#8217;ll see in 5 to 10 years (or maybe longer) that Bush and Blair were completely correct in liberating Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: gldnldy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gldnldy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama before McCain lead:  against offshore drilling

Obama after McCain lead:  will consider offshore drilling

Obama before McCain lead:  will downsize military 

Obama after McCain lead:  will increase military spending

Obama before McCain lead:  will raise taxes

Obama after McCain lead:  will slash taxes
and make tax cuts permanent

Obama before McCain lead:  says cannot answer whether life begins at conception because it&#039;s &#039;above&#039; his &#039;paygrade&#039;

Obama after McCain lead:  He still cannot get himself to say it, so he has Biden state that life begins at conception.

flip...flop...flip...flop...Which Obama do you believe??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama before McCain lead:  against offshore drilling</p>
<p>Obama after McCain lead:  will consider offshore drilling</p>
<p>Obama before McCain lead:  will downsize military </p>
<p>Obama after McCain lead:  will increase military spending</p>
<p>Obama before McCain lead:  will raise taxes</p>
<p>Obama after McCain lead:  will slash taxes<br />
and make tax cuts permanent</p>
<p>Obama before McCain lead:  says cannot answer whether life begins at conception because it&#8217;s &#8216;above&#8217; his &#8216;paygrade&#8217;</p>
<p>Obama after McCain lead:  He still cannot get himself to say it, so he has Biden state that life begins at conception.</p>
<p>flip&#8230;flop&#8230;flip&#8230;flop&#8230;Which Obama do you believe??</p>
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