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		<title>By: jward52</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We agree! - This unConstitutional privately owned FEDERAL RESERVE needs abolished and sent back to Europe where they came from! FRACTIONAL Banking &amp; Fiat fake Money have destroyed AMERICA. And only these Criminal Globalist Banking Families Benefit of the PEOPLE!! Abolish the Federal Reserve Act IMMEDIATELY!!! Congress should be ashamed for selling Our Nation to these Criminals!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We agree! &#8211; This unConstitutional privately owned FEDERAL RESERVE needs abolished and sent back to Europe where they came from! FRACTIONAL Banking &amp; Fiat fake Money have destroyed AMERICA. And only these Criminal Globalist Banking Families Benefit of the PEOPLE!! Abolish the Federal Reserve Act IMMEDIATELY!!! Congress should be ashamed for selling Our Nation to these Criminals!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fausta&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Am I depressed yet?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fausta&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Am I depressed yet?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 21:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jillosophy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason everyone feels this way is because dep down inside we all know that there are not enough Americans to pull our country and culture back from the brink.
We have been weakened by the foreign influences in our societies, the very unique strengths we inherently hold have been diluted because they were rooted in American culture. 
Men have lost their moral compass because the male role of protecting and leading has been cheapened in order to take power away from the men. They have no honor as their inherent sense of honor has no footing any longer. Hence, the corruption of our leaders everywhere.
They first created a war between the sexes to cut our society right down the middle - and which should have been called the war against human nature. I can&#039;t begin to describe how twisted and warped this issue has become our modern world. I won&#039;t even try.
America has been weakened and dilluted. We aren&#039;t what we were last century. If we want to turn things around we need to stop spreading our best and brightest areound those God-foresaken countries who will kill us.
We need to bring everyone home.
And send ever foreigner home. 
And if they have exteneded families - THEY ALL GO.
Muslim? Dennounce Allah and Islam or leave. Period.
Either become an American - not just a Paper Citizen of the US - or leave. And then we have to enforce our standards on them. 
Don&#039;t like it? LEAVE.
This will solve our problems.
We have everything we need in this country. 
It&#039;s time to isolate and contain and heal.
Not forever, just for a few generations. We can heal ourselves, if left alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason everyone feels this way is because dep down inside we all know that there are not enough Americans to pull our country and culture back from the brink.<br />
We have been weakened by the foreign influences in our societies, the very unique strengths we inherently hold have been diluted because they were rooted in American culture.<br />
Men have lost their moral compass because the male role of protecting and leading has been cheapened in order to take power away from the men. They have no honor as their inherent sense of honor has no footing any longer. Hence, the corruption of our leaders everywhere.<br />
They first created a war between the sexes to cut our society right down the middle &#8211; and which should have been called the war against human nature. I can&#8217;t begin to describe how twisted and warped this issue has become our modern world. I won&#8217;t even try.<br />
America has been weakened and dilluted. We aren&#8217;t what we were last century. If we want to turn things around we need to stop spreading our best and brightest areound those God-foresaken countries who will kill us.<br />
We need to bring everyone home.<br />
And send ever foreigner home.<br />
And if they have exteneded families &#8211; THEY ALL GO.<br />
Muslim? Dennounce Allah and Islam or leave. Period.<br />
Either become an American &#8211; not just a Paper Citizen of the US &#8211; or leave. And then we have to enforce our standards on them.<br />
Don&#8217;t like it? LEAVE.<br />
This will solve our problems.<br />
We have everything we need in this country.<br />
It&#8217;s time to isolate and contain and heal.<br />
Not forever, just for a few generations. We can heal ourselves, if left alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fop (#46)wrote: 

&quot;Over the past 40 years children have been programmed by their own parents to believe that you can d*ck around for four years in a university, and not only will that diploma somehow enable you to earn more money than a plumber or an electrician, but more importantly, that diploma will make you a better, more enlightened, more well rounded person than a plumber or an electrician.&quot;  


My goodness, how right you are! My parents-in-law, neither of whom went past high school in the late 1940s/early 1950s, are among the wisest and most capable people I know. My father in law can fix anything mechanical, a natural engineer. Their small town is full of people like that. 

As a society, we&#039;ve lost sight of the fact that there are many wellsprings of knowledge, not simply books. Scholarly learning has its place, but certain kinds of knowing aren&#039;t accessible that way, and can only be learned by doing, by getting dirty, by rolling up your sleeves and getting to it - whatever it is! Our current President typifies this problem; he is a scholar - a very bright one, but knows only that, and nothing else. Therefore he lacks concrete knowledge of reality - the kind that cannot be learned in the library or behind the lectern, and is therefore deficient in wisdom. 

Farmers, anyone who works with their hands, seem to acquire a certain type of view of reality - maybe that&#039;s one reason VDH&#039;s writing is so insightful, that he was (is?) a farmer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fop (#46)wrote: </p>
<p>&#8220;Over the past 40 years children have been programmed by their own parents to believe that you can d*ck around for four years in a university, and not only will that diploma somehow enable you to earn more money than a plumber or an electrician, but more importantly, that diploma will make you a better, more enlightened, more well rounded person than a plumber or an electrician.&#8221;  </p>
<p>My goodness, how right you are! My parents-in-law, neither of whom went past high school in the late 1940s/early 1950s, are among the wisest and most capable people I know. My father in law can fix anything mechanical, a natural engineer. Their small town is full of people like that. </p>
<p>As a society, we&#8217;ve lost sight of the fact that there are many wellsprings of knowledge, not simply books. Scholarly learning has its place, but certain kinds of knowing aren&#8217;t accessible that way, and can only be learned by doing, by getting dirty, by rolling up your sleeves and getting to it &#8211; whatever it is! Our current President typifies this problem; he is a scholar &#8211; a very bright one, but knows only that, and nothing else. Therefore he lacks concrete knowledge of reality &#8211; the kind that cannot be learned in the library or behind the lectern, and is therefore deficient in wisdom. </p>
<p>Farmers, anyone who works with their hands, seem to acquire a certain type of view of reality &#8211; maybe that&#8217;s one reason VDH&#8217;s writing is so insightful, that he was (is?) a farmer.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>174. Roughcoat: You are partly correct, that it is folly to over-generalize concerning the make-up of members of a given generation, whether the baby boomers, the so-called &#039;greatest generation,&#039; or any other. If you fought in Viet Nam, and survived the experience, then you are indeed a special man, not to mention lucky and blessed. However, Professor Hanson is dealing in generalities, and in general, the baby boomers have been an immensely destructive force in our society... narcissistic, materialistic, selfish, short-sighted, you name it. It is simply a fact that most of the great institutions in America predate the arrival of the baby boomers on the scene, and their degredation is directly traceable to them. 

However, I would with you that perhaps the &#039;greatest generation&#039; - the Depression/WW2 generation - has been over-rated in many respects. If any generation deserves that title, it is the generation of patriots comprising the Founding Fathers, the men who gave birth to this nation, in the process writing our Declaration of Independence and Constitution, the Federalist papers, and many other landmark works. 

As Dinesh D&#039;Souza writes, the acheivements of the WWII generation, though impressive in many ways, were lacking in one significant way: they failed to reproduce themselves; that is, they failed to transmit their values to the following generation. 

You are also partly correct that the WWII generation &#039;lost&#039; the Vietnam War, as the war effort was largely led by politicians and officers of that time. Bear in mind that the war, we now know, was won for all intents and purposes on the battlefield after the Tet Offensive. Although we didn&#039;t know it at the time, the Vietcong were effectively destroyed as a fighting force, and the regular NVA sustained terrific damage. However, Walter Cronkite effectively slammed the door on our efforts by unilaterally declaring the war effectively unwinable. We also had the N. Vietnamese on the ropes during the &quot;Rolling Thunder&quot; strategic bombing offensive of the early 1970s, but again let the intiative slip away. These were, it can argued, political and not military failures. The Communists won the war only after we&#039;d left the scene, so it is accurate to state that we did not lose the war, the S. Vietnamese government did. If one argues that we &#039;lost&#039; the war by failing to achieve our strategic aims, then one shouldn&#039;t blame every senior U.S. officer, many of whom were gravely troubled by how the war was being prosecuted. Moreover, our best military people in Vietnam were the equal of anyone, anywhere - bar none. For every William Westmoreland, there were men like Creighton Abrams, or David Hackworth, or Hal Moore. Vietnam was a new kind of war, one any nation would have had trouble winning. And make no mistake, we could have ended that war with the push of a button. What I find remarkable about that conflict is that after all the suffering sustained by our uniformed services, we still in the end exercised some degree of restraint and did not use tactical nukes. 
The fact that we didn&#039;t not use nuclear weapons says something about the basic good sense and decency of the American people and - yes - even our leaders, who had the sense not to risk a wider war by using these ultimate weapons. 

Thanks for your service...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>174. Roughcoat: You are partly correct, that it is folly to over-generalize concerning the make-up of members of a given generation, whether the baby boomers, the so-called &#8216;greatest generation,&#8217; or any other. If you fought in Viet Nam, and survived the experience, then you are indeed a special man, not to mention lucky and blessed. However, Professor Hanson is dealing in generalities, and in general, the baby boomers have been an immensely destructive force in our society&#8230; narcissistic, materialistic, selfish, short-sighted, you name it. It is simply a fact that most of the great institutions in America predate the arrival of the baby boomers on the scene, and their degredation is directly traceable to them. </p>
<p>However, I would with you that perhaps the &#8216;greatest generation&#8217; &#8211; the Depression/WW2 generation &#8211; has been over-rated in many respects. If any generation deserves that title, it is the generation of patriots comprising the Founding Fathers, the men who gave birth to this nation, in the process writing our Declaration of Independence and Constitution, the Federalist papers, and many other landmark works. </p>
<p>As Dinesh D&#8217;Souza writes, the acheivements of the WWII generation, though impressive in many ways, were lacking in one significant way: they failed to reproduce themselves; that is, they failed to transmit their values to the following generation. </p>
<p>You are also partly correct that the WWII generation &#8216;lost&#8217; the Vietnam War, as the war effort was largely led by politicians and officers of that time. Bear in mind that the war, we now know, was won for all intents and purposes on the battlefield after the Tet Offensive. Although we didn&#8217;t know it at the time, the Vietcong were effectively destroyed as a fighting force, and the regular NVA sustained terrific damage. However, Walter Cronkite effectively slammed the door on our efforts by unilaterally declaring the war effectively unwinable. We also had the N. Vietnamese on the ropes during the &#8220;Rolling Thunder&#8221; strategic bombing offensive of the early 1970s, but again let the intiative slip away. These were, it can argued, political and not military failures. The Communists won the war only after we&#8217;d left the scene, so it is accurate to state that we did not lose the war, the S. Vietnamese government did. If one argues that we &#8216;lost&#8217; the war by failing to achieve our strategic aims, then one shouldn&#8217;t blame every senior U.S. officer, many of whom were gravely troubled by how the war was being prosecuted. Moreover, our best military people in Vietnam were the equal of anyone, anywhere &#8211; bar none. For every William Westmoreland, there were men like Creighton Abrams, or David Hackworth, or Hal Moore. Vietnam was a new kind of war, one any nation would have had trouble winning. And make no mistake, we could have ended that war with the push of a button. What I find remarkable about that conflict is that after all the suffering sustained by our uniformed services, we still in the end exercised some degree of restraint and did not use tactical nukes.<br />
The fact that we didn&#8217;t not use nuclear weapons says something about the basic good sense and decency of the American people and &#8211; yes &#8211; even our leaders, who had the sense not to risk a wider war by using these ultimate weapons. </p>
<p>Thanks for your service&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Prevost1580</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mr.T , yes. What happened to manners? consideration? and respect?! Kids run into you these days without saying &quot; excuse me &quot; or respecting an elderly person like my dad or grandma. The kids are raised by rude,obnxious,self entitled parents. 

  I was listening to a Christian radio station the other day and the Pastor was explaining what has happened to America, society &amp; we the people,as a whole. From the 60&#039;s on,everything became about YOU! How are YOU feeling? Look in the mirror at YOU! Are YOU happy??? This pastor went onto say that God&#039;s mirror is transparent, you look through YOU &amp; see everything &amp; everyone else and that is what life is truly about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mr.T , yes. What happened to manners? consideration? and respect?! Kids run into you these days without saying &#8221; excuse me &#8221; or respecting an elderly person like my dad or grandma. The kids are raised by rude,obnxious,self entitled parents. </p>
<p>  I was listening to a Christian radio station the other day and the Pastor was explaining what has happened to America, society &amp; we the people,as a whole. From the 60&#8217;s on,everything became about YOU! How are YOU feeling? Look in the mirror at YOU! Are YOU happy??? This pastor went onto say that God&#8217;s mirror is transparent, you look through YOU &amp; see everything &amp; everyone else and that is what life is truly about.</p>
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		<title>By: Cadydid</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an amazing article.  You&#039;ve successfully articulated every single thing that I have been feeling lately.  Thank you from the bottom of my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an amazing article.  You&#8217;ve successfully articulated every single thing that I have been feeling lately.  Thank you from the bottom of my heart.</p>
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		<title>By: MrT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Thank goodness, someone has got the brains and chops to say it out loud. People are allowing this to happen by NOT turning off the reality shows which are like traffic accidens, allowing chidren to have cell phones with photo capabilities and PC&#039;s with the ability to pass along inappropriate sexual content, not saying NO to the children, going to gory movies that glorify insane people who want to stab torture (why do you think kids think it&#039;s okay to kill their classmates with terrorist type actions?), and without a doubt being part of the &quot;ME&quot; generation who double park, push you out of the way, don&#039;t say excuse me/thank you, fall into the victim trap by taking whatever they can grab, legally or not. Octomom comes home with paparazzi all over the lawn and it sells magazines. Someone has the chops finally!  THANK YOU!  Maybe the next generation will have had enough and stop this mess from continuing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Thank goodness, someone has got the brains and chops to say it out loud. People are allowing this to happen by NOT turning off the reality shows which are like traffic accidens, allowing chidren to have cell phones with photo capabilities and PC&#8217;s with the ability to pass along inappropriate sexual content, not saying NO to the children, going to gory movies that glorify insane people who want to stab torture (why do you think kids think it&#8217;s okay to kill their classmates with terrorist type actions?), and without a doubt being part of the &#8220;ME&#8221; generation who double park, push you out of the way, don&#8217;t say excuse me/thank you, fall into the victim trap by taking whatever they can grab, legally or not. Octomom comes home with paparazzi all over the lawn and it sells magazines. Someone has the chops finally!  THANK YOU!  Maybe the next generation will have had enough and stop this mess from continuing.</p>
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		<title>By: Prevost1580</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prevost1580</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not only the economy,stupid! has anyone looked at the dolts who keep reproducing?! The baby boomers were/are the self entitled ones ( most of them but not all ) you know from the 60&#039;s, if it feels good! then,do it! Well... they reproduced &amp; passed on the self enitlement issues and on &amp; on. 

So each generation gets more &amp; more entitled &amp; rude. I&#039;m sure many have noticed how annoying &amp; bratty,kids have become. Even Michael Savage was saying recently, quote! Your kids are not ADD,ADHD,Autistic or bipolar, they are just useless,spoiled brats! who need their asses whooped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not only the economy,stupid! has anyone looked at the dolts who keep reproducing?! The baby boomers were/are the self entitled ones ( most of them but not all ) you know from the 60&#8217;s, if it feels good! then,do it! Well&#8230; they reproduced &amp; passed on the self enitlement issues and on &amp; on. </p>
<p>So each generation gets more &amp; more entitled &amp; rude. I&#8217;m sure many have noticed how annoying &amp; bratty,kids have become. Even Michael Savage was saying recently, quote! Your kids are not ADD,ADHD,Autistic or bipolar, they are just useless,spoiled brats! who need their asses whooped!</p>
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		<title>By: BadLiberal</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My one quibble on this is the reference to California farmers.  Government, at vast expense, built a system to deliver waters to farmers for minimal costs.  

Somewhere along the line, farmers began to believe that this was their God-given right, much like today&#039;s seniors believe that they are somehow entitled to ever-expanding Medicare treatments and the way today&#039;s poor complain about the earned income credit.

VDH&#039;s continual complaining about how the state treats farming water rights -- as though every farmer got a piece of paper guaranteeing him free water for life because he&#039;s a farmer -- is a terrific example of how corrosive government programs that &quot;give away&quot; things are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My one quibble on this is the reference to California farmers.  Government, at vast expense, built a system to deliver waters to farmers for minimal costs.  </p>
<p>Somewhere along the line, farmers began to believe that this was their God-given right, much like today&#8217;s seniors believe that they are somehow entitled to ever-expanding Medicare treatments and the way today&#8217;s poor complain about the earned income credit.</p>
<p>VDH&#8217;s continual complaining about how the state treats farming water rights &#8212; as though every farmer got a piece of paper guaranteeing him free water for life because he&#8217;s a farmer &#8212; is a terrific example of how corrosive government programs that &#8220;give away&#8221; things are.</p>
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