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		<title>By: Mark E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This course is far worse off because our current crop of &quot;journalists&quot; threw away its own credibility after repeated warnings went utterly unheeded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This course is far worse off because our current crop of &#8220;journalists&#8221; threw away its own credibility after repeated warnings went utterly unheeded.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatism isn&#039;t dead, but it needs a whole lot of streamlining in order to get rid of Obama and his leftist illuminati regime in 2012. No more moderate candidates; we need true conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatism isn&#8217;t dead, but it needs a whole lot of streamlining in order to get rid of Obama and his leftist illuminati regime in 2012. No more moderate candidates; we need true conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Miller,

P.S.,

I must take issue with your, what appears to be at least (as you mention no names), follow-up concession to &quot;David Thompson.&quot;  I thought that your initial post concerning giving Obama a chance before jumping down his throat was thoughtful and even-tempered.  Not so ironically, &#039;Thompson&#039; then jumps down your throat with a glib opener (&quot;Nonsense...&quot;), to which you then seem to capitulate.  

I agree:  We should indeed give our president-elect a chance before jumping down his throat.  Guys like &#039;Thompson&#039;--and this unfortuantely has become the partisan-conservative (as opposed to philosophical-conservative) modus operandi--like to masquerade a sort of hyper-conviction as wisdom:  the more resolute you seem and the louder you yell, the &#039;righter&#039; you are (pun intended).  Hence you get openers like, &quot;Nonsense...&quot;  Most--though not all--conservatives don&#039;t approach issues with any degree of measured observation or temperance anymore which gives them the reputation of being heard-headed and &#039;anti-intellectual&#039;--an unfortunate and, perhaps more importantly, unnecessary, caricature.  Incidentally, VDH is a conservative which is the antithesis of the latter description which is one of the reasons, I believe, we enjoy reading his essays so much (all of which have a healthy dose of conviction--albeit measured conviction--to be sure).  

What I&#039;m saying is that conservatives shouldn&#039;t be hesitant to espouse moderate views like the one you presented.  The kid in the front of the class with his hand up going &quot;Oo, Oo, Me, Me&quot; is often times no more correct than the one who chooses not to compete with his obnoxious clamoring.  In fact, often times it is the latter who provides the correct answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Miller,</p>
<p>P.S.,</p>
<p>I must take issue with your, what appears to be at least (as you mention no names), follow-up concession to &#8220;David Thompson.&#8221;  I thought that your initial post concerning giving Obama a chance before jumping down his throat was thoughtful and even-tempered.  Not so ironically, &#8216;Thompson&#8217; then jumps down your throat with a glib opener (&#8221;Nonsense&#8230;&#8221;), to which you then seem to capitulate.  </p>
<p>I agree:  We should indeed give our president-elect a chance before jumping down his throat.  Guys like &#8216;Thompson&#8217;&#8211;and this unfortuantely has become the partisan-conservative (as opposed to philosophical-conservative) modus operandi&#8211;like to masquerade a sort of hyper-conviction as wisdom:  the more resolute you seem and the louder you yell, the &#8216;righter&#8217; you are (pun intended).  Hence you get openers like, &#8220;Nonsense&#8230;&#8221;  Most&#8211;though not all&#8211;conservatives don&#8217;t approach issues with any degree of measured observation or temperance anymore which gives them the reputation of being heard-headed and &#8216;anti-intellectual&#8217;&#8211;an unfortunate and, perhaps more importantly, unnecessary, caricature.  Incidentally, VDH is a conservative which is the antithesis of the latter description which is one of the reasons, I believe, we enjoy reading his essays so much (all of which have a healthy dose of conviction&#8211;albeit measured conviction&#8211;to be sure).  </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that conservatives shouldn&#8217;t be hesitant to espouse moderate views like the one you presented.  The kid in the front of the class with his hand up going &#8220;Oo, Oo, Me, Me&#8221; is often times no more correct than the one who chooses not to compete with his obnoxious clamoring.  In fact, often times it is the latter who provides the correct answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a lot of trouble they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://my.wrif.com/mim/?p=916&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recording here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a lot of trouble they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.</p>
<p>The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.</p>
<p>Listen to the <a href="http://my.wrif.com/mim/?p=916" rel="nofollow">recording here</a></p>
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		<title>By: PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Miller,

I&#039;m curious whether this is the &#039;real&#039; Frank Miller i.e. the comic book and movie (Sin City, 300) artist and writer.  If so, just thought I would extend to you a, perhaps belated, &#039;Welcome&#039; (if I&#039;m the one who&#039;s late my apologies).  I spent many an hour reading your stuff throughout my youth and still occasionally indulge when time permits.  Anyway, assuming this is indeed the Frank Miller described above, nice to see you posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Miller,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious whether this is the &#8216;real&#8217; Frank Miller i.e. the comic book and movie (Sin City, 300) artist and writer.  If so, just thought I would extend to you a, perhaps belated, &#8216;Welcome&#8217; (if I&#8217;m the one who&#8217;s late my apologies).  I spent many an hour reading your stuff throughout my youth and still occasionally indulge when time permits.  Anyway, assuming this is indeed the Frank Miller described above, nice to see you posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laughed out loud at the &quot;bent and worthless vineyard staples&quot; story, props for getting novelistic detail into a blog post.

Obama himself is &quot;hung up race.&quot;  Have you read his books?  I want the man to do well, but let&#039;s be honest, Obama is more screwed up/reliant on race than any other major American figure.

I just worry that, like Col. Powell and Dr. Rice, Obama will be stripped of his racial identity.  Some feeble Belafonte-figure will denounce him and the wait for a &quot;real&quot; black President will continue.  Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laughed out loud at the &#8220;bent and worthless vineyard staples&#8221; story, props for getting novelistic detail into a blog post.</p>
<p>Obama himself is &#8220;hung up race.&#8221;  Have you read his books?  I want the man to do well, but let&#8217;s be honest, Obama is more screwed up/reliant on race than any other major American figure.</p>
<p>I just worry that, like Col. Powell and Dr. Rice, Obama will be stripped of his racial identity.  Some feeble Belafonte-figure will denounce him and the wait for a &#8220;real&#8221; black President will continue.  Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the USA under Obama focuses on getting off dependence on foreign oil in the next eight years-- then a lot of bad stuff will recede to the horizon and Obama will have earned his stripes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the USA under Obama focuses on getting off dependence on foreign oil in the next eight years&#8211; then a lot of bad stuff will recede to the horizon and Obama will have earned his stripes.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Davis Hanson (Clarity, Balance, Reason&#8230;.Refreshing) &#171; Zipline Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Davis Hanson (Clarity, Balance, Reason&#8230;.Refreshing) &#171; Zipline Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Judith Hofbauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judith Hofbauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First time here, responses are extremely erudite and even if bias, recognize that we are still a nation.  About Obama, manufactured empty suit Chicago thug, cold, hard cynic and as for being an American, I am still not convinced.  I am proud to show my birth certificate if asked; my Dad, a naturalized citizen, Canadian by birth, was proud to show his papers.  How can we as a nation work together if we don&#039;t know the leader?  And no to bailouts, let GM and Ford&#039;s high paid CEOs figure it out for themselves.  (end of rant)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First time here, responses are extremely erudite and even if bias, recognize that we are still a nation.  About Obama, manufactured empty suit Chicago thug, cold, hard cynic and as for being an American, I am still not convinced.  I am proud to show my birth certificate if asked; my Dad, a naturalized citizen, Canadian by birth, was proud to show his papers.  How can we as a nation work together if we don&#8217;t know the leader?  And no to bailouts, let GM and Ford&#8217;s high paid CEOs figure it out for themselves.  (end of rant)</p>
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		<title>By: frank Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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I thoroughly agree, sir. I simply hope for the best.

FM</description>
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I thoroughly agree, sir. I simply hope for the best.</p>
<p>FM</p>
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