Often mockery drives home the point better than any other message.

Btw, thanks for the explanation of the heat exchange in post #113. I will find it useful for future arguments.

#23, Michael: Wind turbines would not take heat or energy from the air. They would put sensible heat into the air and warm it up.

The “generator” portion of the wind Turbine is a machine that gives off heat when it works and is doing work. Since it is not a biological system it would also absorb heat from the sun that would not be off set by water vapor and it will thus generate more dumb heat into the air by radiation. Just like a tin roof.

A wind turbine is not 100% efficient, thus the operating heat is due to its inefficiency as a machine.

A wind turbine’s over all efficiency as a system for generating electricity is less than 34%. And of course it is not “free”.

The free market place could not support wind turbine costs but your tax dollars will and be “justified” with the OBAMA buffoon system. This is a new “science”. To replace the old one that is now inoperative.

Also it will be supported by the energy bill Cap and Trade system of the brilliant scientist Algore and the other “Ivy League” affirmative action housing crisis boys who want to create a new market option—energy credits that can be bought and sold with “commissions” no less.

This is even a better scheme to lift money from taxpayers and investors than “churning” stocks. They may be affirmative action but they know how to calculate their commissions. Algore will become more and more like the fat dumb pig he really is.

I was born on a farm in Kansas that had a small wind turbine generator. It got disconnected as soon as we were wired to the grid. It was much less efficient than the 34% efficiency of current technology. My dad got tired of climbing the tower to maintain it also.

Enough wind turbines’ on a TB Pickens wind farm would cause a more detrimental warming of the globe than burning carbon fuel.

Of course as noted it has to be subsidized by tax credits and money from the real utilities to be able to accomplish this “warming”.

When carbon fuel is burned it gives off CO2 and water vapor as combustion products. Water vapor does cool the air when it changes state from water (liquid) to vapor. A chemical process of restoration happens when carbon fuel is burned. The CO2 products of combustion feeds the plants. And the water vapor is returned to the atmosphere where it originally came from just as the CO2 came from plant life millions of years old that was turned to oil or coal. It’s stored energy was released back to where it came from.

Burning carbon based fuel adds chemicals back into the global system from where they came. Wind turbines simply put sensible heat into the air. It is dumb heat up to no good.

You like most dumbed down Americans have not learned any thing at all about the CO2 life cycle for plants and animals. Or what heat is and how it is made or not made. So much for PC “science”, union teachers, and PC indoctrination and the affirmative action buffoon that is now the POTUS, along with Algore the Fat.

Don’t let my criticism of you stop you from asking questions. I know you have to protect your fragile self image. Bit down hard on a stick. However you did bring up a very good point that I wanted to answer with additional points.

Isn’t what they taught you in school– Win lose or draw you are a winner! You may be ignorant– maybe, but a winner and the good teachers have maintained your self image. However inaccurate it may be. However much it hurts you in the long run.

I will let you criticize my spelling and not feel a thing. At my age I forgot what I learned when spelling. It comes from using a computer and spell check. Sometimes spell check even puts words into my “mouth.” that were not intended.

Since we are all in the same boat, a boat that is starting to crack up you can’t afford to stay made very long.

I am for humor, laughter is good, we could all use more of it, and humor is even good for an individual’s health.

Except: when it is allowed and brought on to deflect an impact of life circumstances that should be felt in its entire monstrosity.

Our ancestors knew when to fight and why. This impact on their freedoms was felt in the gut and heart so the appropriate actions were taken to create America.

Is the destruction of America funny? “It is no laughing matter” does have a much deeper meaning. It is a call to action and focus on the problem at hand.

Are we to lose what millions of Americans have died for—going out without even a whimper?

Individuals in a cage with deadly snake must be prepared to react appropriately or die. This is even if the snake initially seems benign and asleep, dressed up in doll clothes, with lipstick, even “cute”.

Eventually he has to be fed—he has been designed as a single method killer by nature and evolution. What do you think humanizing him and creating jokes about him will do? Nothing.

Eventually to support Obama’s policy property will have to be taken, initially through higher taxes.

Then even higher taxes will not be enough. The state will have to own the property. We will all be renters, managed by government lackeys who eventually will be so corrupted the state will fall in on itself.

America is already dead but remaining assets will be killed by more parasites than it can support, all the assets have melted away, there was no private property ownership and individual responsibility to maintain or improve the “property”. All gone. Just as if we were never here.

Is this funny? Keep laughing you idiots.

/czar-chasm switched back on/off again.

Its hard to buy that we’ll be putting out less carbon in the future once we become a smoking ruin

Quote by Norman thomas…

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened”

And saved us from ourselves in the nick-pit of time

/tsar-chasm off.

Now I really know what it means to be a schizoid man.

I wish the bill will be in dollars. Most likely it will be in blood.

VDH – The snark-fu was strong within you this day!

I am much better now that the arbusto is gone back to Tejas. And that tingle down my leg is explained. It is due to The Pantywaist pResident’s unbearable lightness NOT the blown out disk in my back.

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