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		<title>By: Starscream</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/weathernerd/2008/08/31/gustavs-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>Starscream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some issues but nothing bad.  This site has some good photos of it:

http://philadelphiaweather.blogspot.com/2008/09/levee-breech-in-suburban-nola.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some issues but nothing bad.  This site has some good photos of it:</p>
<p><a href="http://philadelphiaweather.blogspot.com/2008/09/levee-breech-in-suburban-nola.html" rel="nofollow">http://philadelphiaweather.blogspot.com/2008/09/levee-breech-in-suburban-nola.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mjk</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/weathernerd/2008/08/31/gustavs-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-608</link>
		<dc:creator>mjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the Messiah?  Can&#039;t he just go there, get out into a boat, and shout &quot;Peace&quot;?

Still, hoping everything works out and no one loses their lives in this storm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the Messiah?  Can&#8217;t he just go there, get out into a boat, and shout &#8220;Peace&#8221;?</p>
<p>Still, hoping everything works out and no one loses their lives in this storm.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/weathernerd/2008/08/31/gustavs-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And when the decision was made, Gustav was at 150 mph&quot;

What does the historical record indicate?  What are the odds that the threat would greatly diminish before it hit New Orleans?  How often has the city actually been hit by 150 mph winds?  Were the odds one in five, one in a hundred, or even lower than that.  I could admittedly be wrong.  You have studied this matter in far greater depth than myself.  Nonetheless, I wonder if the odds makers would have concluded that the elderly should have remained closer to home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And when the decision was made, Gustav was at 150 mph&#8221;</p>
<p>What does the historical record indicate?  What are the odds that the threat would greatly diminish before it hit New Orleans?  How often has the city actually been hit by 150 mph winds?  Were the odds one in five, one in a hundred, or even lower than that.  I could admittedly be wrong.  You have studied this matter in far greater depth than myself.  Nonetheless, I wonder if the odds makers would have concluded that the elderly should have remained closer to home.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Brendan. The evacuations were appropriate. Frankly, even a slow moving Cat 3 coming in at the worse case landfall could destroy New Orleans.

My gut feeling is that overall the levees are better than before Katrina but we still have wetlands loss, and the infrastructure in the city itself is fragile.

I also believe that much of the repairs on homes has been shoddy, and many homes are more subject to wind damage. 

At this time yesterday, we all still expected Gustav to get back up to Cat 4 minimally, and we did not know where landfall would be. A Cat 4 with a Besty landfall would have been the big disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brendan. The evacuations were appropriate. Frankly, even a slow moving Cat 3 coming in at the worse case landfall could destroy New Orleans.</p>
<p>My gut feeling is that overall the levees are better than before Katrina but we still have wetlands loss, and the infrastructure in the city itself is fragile.</p>
<p>I also believe that much of the repairs on homes has been shoddy, and many homes are more subject to wind damage. </p>
<p>At this time yesterday, we all still expected Gustav to get back up to Cat 4 minimally, and we did not know where landfall would be. A Cat 4 with a Besty landfall would have been the big disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Loy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan Loy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, your analysis is flawed. You cannot judge whether evacuations were necessary based on how Gustav looks NOW, because evacuation decisions cannot be made 12 hours before landfall. You have to judge based on how Gustav looked when the decision was made. And when the decision was made, Gustav was at 150 mph, and it appeared likely that it would weaken only slightly over Cuba, then get even stronger over the Loop Current. That these things did not happen is incredibly lucky, but when the evacuation was made -- when it &lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt; to be made -- we couldn&#039;t count on such good luck.

The evacuation of New Orleans was totally, indisputably necessary. That three people tragically died in the evacuation does not change that fact. Yes, evacuations themselves are always risky. They aren&#039;t cost-free. But if the last 30 hours had turned out a bit differently -- and, as of Saturday night, we had no right to assume they wouldn&#039;t -- the death toll in New Orleans, had people stayed, could have been counted in the thousands.

Hindsight is 20/20, my friend. It is grossly irresponsible, always, to criticize evacuation decisions based on hindsight. You must judge them based on contemporaneous facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, your analysis is flawed. You cannot judge whether evacuations were necessary based on how Gustav looks NOW, because evacuation decisions cannot be made 12 hours before landfall. You have to judge based on how Gustav looked when the decision was made. And when the decision was made, Gustav was at 150 mph, and it appeared likely that it would weaken only slightly over Cuba, then get even stronger over the Loop Current. That these things did not happen is incredibly lucky, but when the evacuation was made &#8212; when it <i>had</i> to be made &#8212; we couldn&#8217;t count on such good luck.</p>
<p>The evacuation of New Orleans was totally, indisputably necessary. That three people tragically died in the evacuation does not change that fact. Yes, evacuations themselves are always risky. They aren&#8217;t cost-free. But if the last 30 hours had turned out a bit differently &#8212; and, as of Saturday night, we had no right to assume they wouldn&#8217;t &#8212; the death toll in New Orleans, had people stayed, could have been counted in the thousands.</p>
<p>Hindsight is 20/20, my friend. It is grossly irresponsible, always, to criticize evacuation decisions based on hindsight. You must judge them based on contemporaneous facts.</p>
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		<title>By: RazorsKiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>RazorsKiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in Gulfport, MS, and liveblogging it at http://razorskiss.net/wp/2008/09/01/liveblogging-gustav/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Gulfport, MS, and liveblogging it at <a href="http://razorskiss.net/wp/2008/09/01/liveblogging-gustav/" rel="nofollow">http://razorskiss.net/wp/2008/09/01/liveblogging-gustav/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media » Gustav is No Katrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media » Gustav is No Katrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Track the storm here&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty good analysis.  Far better than I am receiving from the MSM.  It keeps implying that the world is about to end.  A category 3 hurricane should not destroy New Orleans.  The city should endure some moderately strong winds and a lot of rain.  Nothing more than that.  Those elderly people who died leaving the city should have stayed home. They would have been at less risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty good analysis.  Far better than I am receiving from the MSM.  It keeps implying that the world is about to end.  A category 3 hurricane should not destroy New Orleans.  The city should endure some moderately strong winds and a lot of rain.  Nothing more than that.  Those elderly people who died leaving the city should have stayed home. They would have been at less risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guys who kept blogging from Zipa datacenter during Katrina (Interdictor) are doing it again for Gustav. The URL: http://gustavbloggers.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guys who kept blogging from Zipa datacenter during Katrina (Interdictor) are doing it again for Gustav. The URL: <a href="http://gustavbloggers.com/" rel="nofollow">http://gustavbloggers.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gustav weakens &#171; Internet Scofflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gustav weakens &#171; Internet Scofflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Good news.  Unless something changes (unlikely at this point) or the New Orleans levees fail again [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Good news.  Unless something changes (unlikely at this point) or the New Orleans levees fail again [...]</p>
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