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	<title>Comments on: 24,000 people still on Galveston Island?!?</title>
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	<description>Brendan Loy\'s hurricane blog</description>
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		<title>By: Cybrludite</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/weathernerd/2008/09/12/24000-people-still-on-galveston-island/comment-page-2/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybrludite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samizdat,

Evacuation orders are based on worst case scenarios because once it&#039;s clear whether or not it&#039;ll be a fizzle, it&#039;s too late to get people out of harms way. You&#039;ll notice that we didn&#039;t know that the storm surge was going to be less than expected until after the storm had passed. Real easy to make predictions at that point, but rather harder to save the folks who drowned like rats in their attics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samizdat,</p>
<p>Evacuation orders are based on worst case scenarios because once it&#8217;s clear whether or not it&#8217;ll be a fizzle, it&#8217;s too late to get people out of harms way. You&#8217;ll notice that we didn&#8217;t know that the storm surge was going to be less than expected until after the storm had passed. Real easy to make predictions at that point, but rather harder to save the folks who drowned like rats in their attics.</p>
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		<title>By: samizdat</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/weathernerd/2008/09/12/24000-people-still-on-galveston-island/comment-page-2/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>samizdat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Brenda?

You think they might be staying because people like *you* have ridiculously over-hyped every single damn storm that appeared and started screeching &quot;EVACUATE!&quot; at the drop of a hat?  

You think they might staying because you guys howl about evacuations even when the storm turns out to be a total fizzle?

Ya think maybe you killed somebody this morning with your alarmism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Brenda?</p>
<p>You think they might be staying because people like *you* have ridiculously over-hyped every single damn storm that appeared and started screeching &#8220;EVACUATE!&#8221; at the drop of a hat?  </p>
<p>You think they might staying because you guys howl about evacuations even when the storm turns out to be a total fizzle?</p>
<p>Ya think maybe you killed somebody this morning with your alarmism?</p>
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		<title>By: Nahanni</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/weathernerd/2008/09/12/24000-people-still-on-galveston-island/comment-page-2/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>Nahanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skip the MSM coverage and go over to abc13.com and watch the live streaming video of their coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skip the MSM coverage and go over to abc13.com and watch the live streaming video of their coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveR</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/weathernerd/2008/09/12/24000-people-still-on-galveston-island/comment-page-2/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: that dude in &#039;Houston&#039; is in Clear Lake Shores about 15 miles SW of Houston proper (ignorant intern or aggressive producer?)

JKB: Good insights. I think 8-12 hours would be the best case scenario if our assumed numbers are accurate (run the math...they have 42 heli&#039;s available that would be capable of handling rescues in a window that soon after given the tail-weather conditions of Ike and the capacity limitations of UH-60s). 

Apparently Ike didn&#039;t get the memo &#039;Don&#039;t Mess With Texas&#039; 

It&#039;s been fun. I&#039;m going to bed. 

&#039;night kids</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: that dude in &#8216;Houston&#8217; is in Clear Lake Shores about 15 miles SW of Houston proper (ignorant intern or aggressive producer?)</p>
<p>JKB: Good insights. I think 8-12 hours would be the best case scenario if our assumed numbers are accurate (run the math&#8230;they have 42 heli&#8217;s available that would be capable of handling rescues in a window that soon after given the tail-weather conditions of Ike and the capacity limitations of UH-60s). </p>
<p>Apparently Ike didn&#8217;t get the memo &#8216;Don&#8217;t Mess With Texas&#8217; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been fun. I&#8217;m going to bed. </p>
<p>&#8216;night kids</p>
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		<title>By: geomatic1</title>
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		<dc:creator>geomatic1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that demographically, Galveston resembles New Orleans. 40% of the city of Galveston is poor and Black. I&#039;m sure there are financial reasons for not leaving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that demographically, Galveston resembles New Orleans. 40% of the city of Galveston is poor and Black. I&#8217;m sure there are financial reasons for not leaving.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some guy on the weather channel is saying the surge is already in Houston (I know Houston is big...I lived there and don&#039;t need a geography lesson), but is that really early to be gettin surge of 1-2 feet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some guy on the weather channel is saying the surge is already in Houston (I know Houston is big&#8230;I lived there and don&#8217;t need a geography lesson), but is that really early to be gettin surge of 1-2 feet?</p>
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		<title>By: JKB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They stay to ride out the storm because they have no experience of what the danger is.  They put to much emphasis on the fact that it hasn&#039;t happened to them in past storms.  They don&#039;t have any sense of how fast things can turn against them.  And we, in the US, live in a world where help is minutes away most of the time.  This causes people to take greater risks since survival appears to be easily corrected.  But in these conditions, these people, the ones not killed quickly when it turns against them, will be isolated and alone for 8-12 hours.  

No amount of warning will work for some as they have a false sense of security and little true appreciation of the dangers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They stay to ride out the storm because they have no experience of what the danger is.  They put to much emphasis on the fact that it hasn&#8217;t happened to them in past storms.  They don&#8217;t have any sense of how fast things can turn against them.  And we, in the US, live in a world where help is minutes away most of the time.  This causes people to take greater risks since survival appears to be easily corrected.  But in these conditions, these people, the ones not killed quickly when it turns against them, will be isolated and alone for 8-12 hours.  </p>
<p>No amount of warning will work for some as they have a false sense of security and little true appreciation of the dangers.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s BMinich talking to? I seriously doubt that poor guy who just got punked by Anderson Coops is readin&#039; this blog, but he should be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s BMinich talking to? I seriously doubt that poor guy who just got punked by Anderson Coops is readin&#8217; this blog, but he should be</p>
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		<title>By: B. Minich</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Minich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I covered this before, but let&#039;s go over this again.

YOU ARE ON A FRICKIN&#039; ISLAND!  IN A HURRICANE!  WITH ONE BRIDGE OFF THAT IS COVERED WITH WATER!!  WITH A STORM SURGE ENOUGH TO COMPLETELY COVER YOUR ISLAND!  WHY DIDN&#039;T YOU LEAVE?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I covered this before, but let&#8217;s go over this again.</p>
<p>YOU ARE ON A FRICKIN&#8217; ISLAND!  IN A HURRICANE!  WITH ONE BRIDGE OFF THAT IS COVERED WITH WATER!!  WITH A STORM SURGE ENOUGH TO COMPLETELY COVER YOUR ISLAND!  WHY DIDN&#8217;T YOU LEAVE?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Change in the Weather &#171; Politics and Profits: Business and the 2008 Election</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/weathernerd/2008/09/12/24000-people-still-on-galveston-island/comment-page-1/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>Change in the Weather &#171; Politics and Profits: Business and the 2008 Election</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thanks to Hurricane Ike. Reacting to a report that 40 percent of Galveston Island residents &#8212; some 24,000 souls [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thanks to Hurricane Ike. Reacting to a report that 40 percent of Galveston Island residents &#8212; some 24,000 souls [...]</p>
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