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		<title>By: &#8216;Get out or face certain death&#8217; (8)&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Get out or face certain death&#8217; (8)&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update:  Ike strengthens slightly, wobbles west; storm surge begins [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, scary words man, but I fear true. The North Sea flood came during the night too, much like Ike. Details about that one here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_flood_of_1953 - basically a massive storm surge that flooded East Anglia in England and the coast of Holland, killing 2,000 people. It&#039;s known as &#039;The Great Storm&#039; here. Trying to tell people here how bad this is, and I&#039;m getting a lot of surprised faces. I&#039;m not sure how many believe me, but I&#039;ve convinced my housemates enough for them to cuss with surprise. The BBC is more concerned about the non-fatal Channel Tunnel fire. I&#039;ve been passing Brendan&#039;s, Eric&#039;s and Jeff&#039;s comments on to my fave forum BETEO (Be Excellent to Each Other) with my own thoughts and they&#039;re paying notice, but I don&#039;t think they quite believe the figures I&#039;m throwing about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, scary words man, but I fear true. The North Sea flood came during the night too, much like Ike. Details about that one here &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_flood_of_1953" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_flood_of_1953</a> &#8211; basically a massive storm surge that flooded East Anglia in England and the coast of Holland, killing 2,000 people. It&#8217;s known as &#8216;The Great Storm&#8217; here. Trying to tell people here how bad this is, and I&#8217;m getting a lot of surprised faces. I&#8217;m not sure how many believe me, but I&#8217;ve convinced my housemates enough for them to cuss with surprise. The BBC is more concerned about the non-fatal Channel Tunnel fire. I&#8217;ve been passing Brendan&#8217;s, Eric&#8217;s and Jeff&#8217;s comments on to my fave forum BETEO (Be Excellent to Each Other) with my own thoughts and they&#8217;re paying notice, but I don&#8217;t think they quite believe the figures I&#8217;m throwing about.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveSadlov</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveSadlov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter - This *may* be our &quot;January 1953.&quot; The USA&#039;s coastal storm defenses have unfortunately not matched the level of coastal development. None of the disasters to date has been enough to wake people up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter &#8211; This *may* be our &#8220;January 1953.&#8221; The USA&#8217;s coastal storm defenses have unfortunately not matched the level of coastal development. None of the disasters to date has been enough to wake people up.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent blog again Brendan. I&#039;m here safe and cosy in Cardiff, Wales, and I&#039;m utterly gripped by this. Also been following Eric&#039;s site and the Houston video news feeds. I&#039;m amazed more people haven&#039;t gotten out of there. I saw some news footage on the KHOU.com online feed and it was showing a guy nailing boards to the windows of his beachfront property on the west side of Galveston! Incredibly surreal. 

Is this 40% not evacuated thing really true? What&#039;s the source? Why do you think people haven&#039;t moved out? There was Rita of course, but I wonder if the &#039;squib&#039; that was Gustav (of course, try telling that to the poor people who lost their shore homes) combined with Nagin&#039;s (sort of justified) &#039;get out or die&#039; comments has caused harumphing. 

People really need to get out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent blog again Brendan. I&#8217;m here safe and cosy in Cardiff, Wales, and I&#8217;m utterly gripped by this. Also been following Eric&#8217;s site and the Houston video news feeds. I&#8217;m amazed more people haven&#8217;t gotten out of there. I saw some news footage on the KHOU.com online feed and it was showing a guy nailing boards to the windows of his beachfront property on the west side of Galveston! Incredibly surreal. </p>
<p>Is this 40% not evacuated thing really true? What&#8217;s the source? Why do you think people haven&#8217;t moved out? There was Rita of course, but I wonder if the &#8217;squib&#8217; that was Gustav (of course, try telling that to the poor people who lost their shore homes) combined with Nagin&#8217;s (sort of justified) &#8216;get out or die&#8217; comments has caused harumphing. </p>
<p>People really need to get out.</p>
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		<title>By: baconboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>baconboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Galveston is more than just a resort town, it has one of the key facilities for biodefense research in the country.  The Galveston National Lab was built post 9/11 to do research on diseases that terrorists might use and they just completed the building, which you can watch ride out the storm on the construction webcam: http://www.utmb.edu/webcams/GNLcam.htm

The government has $167 million in this building and it was designed to ride out a storm like this, so it will be interesting to see how it does.

Oh, and UTMB is like the fourth or fifth largest employer in the Houston/Galveston area, so there would be a huge economic impact on the area if Galveston is a total loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Galveston is more than just a resort town, it has one of the key facilities for biodefense research in the country.  The Galveston National Lab was built post 9/11 to do research on diseases that terrorists might use and they just completed the building, which you can watch ride out the storm on the construction webcam: <a href="http://www.utmb.edu/webcams/GNLcam.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.utmb.edu/webcams/GNLcam.htm</a></p>
<p>The government has $167 million in this building and it was designed to ride out a storm like this, so it will be interesting to see how it does.</p>
<p>Oh, and UTMB is like the fourth or fifth largest employer in the Houston/Galveston area, so there would be a huge economic impact on the area if Galveston is a total loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Certain Death &#171; Grand Rants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Certain Death &#171; Grand Rants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that is not what the forecasters are warning about! They&#8217;re warning about a potential 25-foot storm surge. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Good [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that is not what the forecasters are warning about! They&#8217;re warning about a potential 25-foot storm surge. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Loy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan Loy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sullivan, in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seablogger.com/?p=11777#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comments&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;OK. I’m going to be a bit brutal. If landfall is SW of Galveston, I think the place will be a total loss. But it’s just a little resort town, really. It’s the industry of Houston that I’m worried about. Not only could we be looking at the most expensive hurricane in history, but the destruction of energy infrastructure could put the nation in real difficulty. We have refused to build infrastructure for many years; now we may lose some of what we have.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sullivan, in <a href="http://www.seablogger.com/?p=11777#comments" rel="nofollow">comments</a>: &#8220;OK. I’m going to be a bit brutal. If landfall is SW of Galveston, I think the place will be a total loss. But it’s just a little resort town, really. It’s the industry of Houston that I’m worried about. Not only could we be looking at the most expensive hurricane in history, but the destruction of energy infrastructure could put the nation in real difficulty. We have refused to build infrastructure for many years; now we may lose some of what we have.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Loy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan Loy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Katy -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=katy,+tx&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=29.788217,-95.822754&amp;spn=3.284316,4.943848&amp;z=8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heh. Indeed.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Katy &#8212; <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=katy,+tx&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=29.788217,-95.822754&amp;spn=3.284316,4.943848&amp;z=8" rel="nofollow">Heh. Indeed.</a></p>
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		<title>By: baconboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>baconboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised that the Strand is under a bit of water, as it&#039;s on the far north side of the island and is only a few feet above sea level.  It can flood even in a heavy rain.

They are sending people to Ball High School as the refuge of last resort -- I lived three blocks from there for five years and used to walk my dog around the school every morning.  The San Luis Hotel, where the city officials are bunkered (and one of my wife&#039;s friend&#039;s husband will be), is on the Seawall but elevated an additional 30 feet more, so it should be fine, though they are in for a long night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised that the Strand is under a bit of water, as it&#8217;s on the far north side of the island and is only a few feet above sea level.  It can flood even in a heavy rain.</p>
<p>They are sending people to Ball High School as the refuge of last resort &#8212; I lived three blocks from there for five years and used to walk my dog around the school every morning.  The San Luis Hotel, where the city officials are bunkered (and one of my wife&#8217;s friend&#8217;s husband will be), is on the Seawall but elevated an additional 30 feet more, so it should be fine, though they are in for a long night.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Minich</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Minich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I&#039;ve gleaned that people in a suburb named &quot;Katy&quot; seem to be really concerned for some reason, when apparantly, they have no need to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I&#8217;ve gleaned that people in a suburb named &#8220;Katy&#8221; seem to be really concerned for some reason, when apparantly, they have no need to be.</p>
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